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Jun 13, 2013 11:27:06 GMT
Post by pug on Jun 13, 2013 11:27:06 GMT
Though this deserved a new thread.
This is excellent news for Humberside, I would assume it has taken advantage of the new route fund at CPH.
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Jun 13, 2013 14:37:27 GMT
Post by elmfield on Jun 13, 2013 14:37:27 GMT
Can this be seen as a failure by DSA?
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Jun 13, 2013 16:05:58 GMT
Post by kirmingtonuser on Jun 13, 2013 16:05:58 GMT
This should be seen as a considerable success by the new HUY management, rather than a failure by the competition. Congratulations to them and also to pug for the scoop! SAS only operates its hub-feeder from Heathrow, Birmingham, Manchester, Edinburgh, Newcastle and Aberdeen, so HUY is punching above its weight. This must explain where the 5 million population catchment area is coming from. Hopefully it will mean the attraction of a new flow of passengers rather than merely creaming off Amsterdam traffic. In terms of new capacity, 25,500 per annum is significant for HUY at present. To put it in perspective, it compares with a combined total of 8,500 on the new Alicante and Palma routes.
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Jun 13, 2013 16:55:17 GMT
Post by mrmoose on Jun 13, 2013 16:55:17 GMT
This is great news for the airport and Humber region, and something that the airport management should be proud of, and wish the route every success.
I did read somewhere (but now cannot find the link), that Scandinavia was one of the more popular destinations for passengers flying from HUY via AMS, so there must be some demand. My only slight concern is the flight times, and early am departure would have been much more attractive. Hopefully we will soon see HAT offering city breaks packages, to supplement what is obviously a primarily a business focused route.
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Jun 13, 2013 17:14:22 GMT
Post by Humberside on Jun 13, 2013 17:14:22 GMT
Clearly fantastic news. Now the service needs to be made a success
The flight times are probably quite good for a once daily service. An evening flights means customers can do a full or nearly full days work before travelling, rather than a middle of the day flight that can 'waste' most of the day. Unfortuantely that does limit onward connection options, but I was surprised to see how many late departures there are from CPH that connect out of HUY. I presume the advertised list in the press release is full list - includes some destinations not served by KLM •Finland (Turku and Helsinki) •Sweden (Gothenburg and Stockholm) •Norway (Oslo, Bergen, Stavanger) •Poland (Warsaw, Gdansk, Poznan, Wroclaw) •Lithuania (Palanga) •Denmark (Aarhus, Billund, Aalborg) In some cases arrival at the final destination is after midnight, but better than no option at all
The initial use of a CRJ-200 is probably the best fit while the route is in it's start up phase. The airport twitter account has tweeted tonight a larger aircraft will be introduced next year. Hopefully this isn't too soon, but with 50 seat jets increasingly being regarded as uneconomical apart from very high yielding services, then at some point the route will have to transition to a different aircraft type
Important to recognise that I doubt KLM will be thrilled, but with the limited onward connections and lack of choice of flight times, hopefully SAS should be nothing more than an irritant to them
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Jun 13, 2013 19:11:11 GMT
Post by pug on Jun 13, 2013 19:11:11 GMT
I wouldn't say DSA have failed, it would appear that alot of work has gone into securing this and DSA may bot even have been working with them at all.
It will be interesting to see whether the business community will support this, it's been over ten years since the last business route was attempted.
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Jun 13, 2013 19:57:08 GMT
Post by Humberside on Jun 13, 2013 19:57:08 GMT
It would seem a lot of the pitch to SAS was made on the basis of the Humber Region. On Radio Humberside Paul Litten said a lot of information was given to SAS about the region and it's future. SAS seem to have bought into that, so why would they go to DSA? DSA isn't in the Humber Region, HUY is
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Jun 13, 2013 21:54:47 GMT
Post by john2408 on Jun 13, 2013 21:54:47 GMT
Short report on Travelmole says flights are 13457,
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Jun 14, 2013 8:33:21 GMT
Post by elmfield on Jun 14, 2013 8:33:21 GMT
I realise that DSA is not in the Humber Region and I recognise all that is being said about the future of the region and well done to the Airport's management. As one who used to fly regularly to Scandinavia from MAN ( years ago, I am now retired) I can see that the service might well be attractive to many of us in South Yorkshire.
My question about DSA is , simply, for the reason that DSA are said to have been actively seeking business routes to add to their almost non existent portfolio!
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Jun 15, 2013 19:34:41 GMT
Post by kirmingtonuser on Jun 15, 2013 19:34:41 GMT
Yes, the DSA Paris and Amsterdam flights have gone. This leaves them with 18 flights per week to Poland and Lithuania which are arguably business flights. However the emphasis would be on personnel procurement rather than sales, marketing and business development! Similarly, at HUY, the Dublin service in 2007 was multi-purpose, but could be described as suitable for business. It is pleasing to see that Cimber Air has been resurrected from bankruptcy to fly on behalf of SAS. They operated the Humberside-Esbjerg-Sonderborg service in the late 1980's. The quality of their equipment has improved enormously with the introduction of the CRJ200. The Nord 262 was internally noisier than a DC3 and almost as slow! The redeeming feature was the cabin service and the inclusive catering (described in their literature as a good and substantial meal which would make the two hours flying time fast and pleasant). The fresh Danish food was certainly well up to the advertised standard.
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Jun 15, 2013 22:56:04 GMT
Post by mrmoose on Jun 15, 2013 22:56:04 GMT
Flights are now on sale on the SAS website. Flights appear to operate 28th October to 20th December. No flights operate after 20th December and start again from 6th January, and is bookable to 28th March 2014.
Pricing wise, It does appear to be priced more towards business users, but this is hardly unexpected, with some mid-week flights initially priced at £200 each way, but lots of dates for about £230-250 return, so not too badly priced for a full service airline, and may attract a few leisure customers.
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Jun 17, 2013 16:28:06 GMT
Post by rossbailey on Jun 17, 2013 16:28:06 GMT
As Mrmoose righly pointed out the newly announced SAS (Scandinavia Airlines System) flights from Humberside to Copenhagen are now on sale via their website www.flysas.comI’ve just re-checked the timetable and it seems as the service will operate as follows. Flights to be operated by Cimber A/S, CRJ200 aircraft and will use Terminal 3 at Copenhagen Airport. SAS545 = CPH 13:50 HUY 14:25 – SAS546 HUY 14:55 CPH 17:30 = SUN SAS545 = CPH 18:10 HUY 18:45 – SAS546 HUY 19:15 CPH 21:50 = MON, WED, THU, FRI
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Jun 17, 2013 19:33:48 GMT
Post by Humberside on Jun 17, 2013 19:33:48 GMT
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Jun 17, 2013 20:55:14 GMT
Post by kirmingtonuser on Jun 17, 2013 20:55:14 GMT
The possibility of Eastern Airways increasing its activities at its home base is interesting. The list of discontinued scheduled routes is accurate enough in itself, but anyone who is unfamiliar with the situation could be misled by the article. The fall in passenger numbers from over 500,000 to the current level is wholly due to the fall in charter traffic, which is not mentioned in the article. Scheduled and industrial activity has actually performed very well during the recession. The number of scheduled routes may have fallen, but many former hub passengers to Heathrow, Brussels and Paris CDG have now been consolidated into becoming Amsterdam passengers.
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Jun 19, 2013 20:47:13 GMT
Post by kirmingtonuser on Jun 19, 2013 20:47:13 GMT
Palanga Airport in Lithuania is headlining the news of the new link to Humberside on the front page of their website. Also mentioned is the new Bremen route which was announced at the same time. It is significant that Bremen is a centre for off-shore wind energy engineering.
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