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Post by Humberside on Dec 2, 2009 15:46:45 GMT
Flybe JER now on sale for Summer 2010. Weekly Saturday service May to September
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Post by expressflight on Dec 2, 2009 16:16:57 GMT
Operating from 22 May to 18 September 2010.
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Post by Humberside on Dec 4, 2009 16:56:56 GMT
All mention of Southend removed from BE website, and Disocver Jersey website has no availability on Saturday 21st August from SEN. Very wierd
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Post by Humberside on Dec 9, 2009 16:53:39 GMT
SEN back on the Flybe website
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Post by expressflight on Dec 16, 2009 8:40:30 GMT
The prospects for a CAX-SEN scheduled service next year have receded considerably with the news that Carlisle farmer Mr Brown has been granted a Judicial Review of the planning consent by the Court of Appeal. I very much doubt that that will be concluded until autumn 2010.
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Post by devonian on Dec 16, 2009 21:56:12 GMT
Nothing's easy, is it.....?
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Post by Humberside on Mar 25, 2010 18:52:10 GMT
From the travel trade gazette
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Post by Thames Gateway on Mar 26, 2010 8:07:18 GMT
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Post by expressflight on Apr 29, 2010 15:48:16 GMT
I'm just passing this rumour on without comment.
A poster on PPRuNe suggests that Manx2 are to begin a daily IOM-CAX service in August and that the aircraft will continue on to SEN. There is no information as to whether the aircraft would just operate a CAX-SEN-CAX rotation or fly additional routes ex SEN before heading North again.
I do know that this month there has been a great deal of detailed work going on with a number of airlines interested in opening routes from SEN.
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Post by Humberside on Apr 29, 2010 16:29:15 GMT
The aircraft size would certainly be appropiate at least initially, and the service could tap into both the London-IOM and London-Carlisle market. Plus Manx2 could build on their experience at Gloucester
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Post by expressflight on Apr 30, 2010 10:01:03 GMT
Hmmm.... I would have thought that Stobarts/SEN would be setting their heights a little higher than this. CAX-SEN in a D228 would probably be timetabled as at least 1hr30min, so if it were to operate IOM-CAX as its first flight of the day you would be looking at an ETA SEN of around 09:30 earliest, giving a realistic arrival Liverpool Street at around 11:00. That really rules out a day return business trip, which would be one of the markets they would be aiming for. The D228 has the obvious advantage that it could operate from CAX within its current runway weight limit (the Court of Appeal judgement on the planning consent Judicial Review is due to be given very shortly), but it does rather lack passenger appeal and would start SEN's resurgence in a less than grand style. We shall see....
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Post by expressflight on May 6, 2010 9:45:55 GMT
I've just been looking on Flybe's website and the SEN-JER is bookable at some very modest fares this year - just £88 all inclusive return in May and August and £97 in July - which suggests it's not selling at all well this year. The same dates ex HUY showed £124, £282 and £182 all inclusive return. I wonder why this is the case as in previous years it seems to have sold quite well.
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Post by expressflight on May 16, 2010 6:14:18 GMT
If I could just bring the Manx2 discussion back into Airlines/Routes from the Progress thread, I spoke with them on Friday and they said "We have no imminent plans to commence (a CAX-SEN) service .........". The airline industry is suffering greatly from the ongoing volcanic ash problems so it is hard to persuade any of them to invest in new routes at the moment. I fear that a great many people will be put off flying this summer while this problem takes its natural course. If we have a summer month in which there are no airspace closures to distort the figures it will be interesting to see the actual reduction in UK airport pax numbers compared to last year. I suggest that it may well be considerable.
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Post by roche on May 17, 2010 13:03:27 GMT
I agree about the problems re the volcanic ash, but even so, given the level of investment Stobart are pumping into SEN, making it an attractive long term option for airlines, some sort of limited services could be attracted in the short term, be they scheduled or charter. If you look on the Oxford Airport website, they have their Jersey charter through the summer and have just announced that for the second winter season running they have a weekly service to Geneva for the skiing with Baboo. They also hope to introduce services to Newcastle and Edinburgh this year. Why can't SEN try something similar? Have the management at SEN decided that they'll just go for the 'big bang' approach and try and introduce services in 2012 (mainly inbound passengers) and then build from that point onwards - if that's the case, I would suggest that it's a risky strategy. We've heard from Andrew Tinkler and Alistair Welch that 'airlines are queuing up to talk to us', surely some of them have aircraft capable of using the runway with its current configuration. I would be really surprised if the potential problem of reduced distances whilst the runway is being extended is insurmountable. I will be surprised and disappointed if there are no services other than the weekly summer Jersey flight available before 2012
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Post by expressflight on May 17, 2010 16:39:14 GMT
As you probably know I've been involved with certain aspects of this whole runway extension thing and I've now moved on to trying to get a specific route initiated. Because of EBACE and Routes Europe I've been out of the SEN loop for a couple of weeks, so I didn't know if things had suddenly changed with regard to my previous understanding of the prospects for new routes in the next 12 months, but today I've had conversations in preparation with a meeting I'm having on Thursday which clarifies this. All I can say is that nothing has changed and I today received what I can only describe as a potentially excellent piece of news on the routes front for early 2011. Nothing is set in stone on this but it's certainly very encouraging. Confidentiality is obviously important with this sort of thing so I cannot say more, but no one should be worried that the temporarily reduced distances will be sufficient to prevent some new services starting, nor that the SEN management has lost focus in any way. Interesting times definitely lie ahead.
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