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Post by roche on Jul 12, 2008 7:56:05 GMT
I see the BA flight from Zurich to LCY is diverting into SEN again today due it's arrival being after LCY closes. Getting to be a regular occurance.
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Post by Thames Gateway on Jul 12, 2008 8:17:35 GMT
I Hope folks don't mind, but thought I would transfer the content of the old 'Storms & Diversions' thread over. Humberside, please delete if you think it is not cricket!
Humberside Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: Storms and Diversions
Any LCY diversions with todays bad weather, or was SEN suffering too?
Thames Gateway Guest Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:44 pm Could have been a lot busier. There were one euromanx Dash 8 and two RJ85 of CityIsland/AFR
Guest Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:44 pm I assume that the closure of LCY this afternoon has resulted in a number of diversions into SEN ?
Southend Observer Guest Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:00 pm At a passing glance I counted at least 5 diverted aircraft (BAE 146/RJs) I believe more are due.
Expressflight Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 287 Location: France Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:11 pm There have been about a dozen aircraft diverted to SEN so far, with a further 8 or 10 en route at this time.
Guest Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:26 pm They are going to have there ramp space filled up quick. What will they do then! Do you have any further details on the diverted aircraft. I saw at least five BAe 146/Avro RJ.
Expressflight Posts: 287 Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:33 pm LCY now reopened.
Southend Observer Guest Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:38 pm A cityjet RJ85 got out of SEN to Geneva. A second was planned but later cancelled. Allthough LCY there is still disruption, even though it has now reopened.
Southend Observer Guest Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:41 pm My msitake; only positioning flights!
Expressflight Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:56 pm There were seventeen inbound diversions in total, comprising: 6 x Cityflyer RJ100/85 5 x Cityjet/AF 146/RJ85 1 x Scan Nor RJ70 3 x Cityjet/AF D328 1 x Lufthansa Q400 1 x VLM F50
Not a bad haul considering the relatively short time LCY was closed.
Guest Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:22 pm Unusual for Lufthansa to divert an aircraft into SEN. It would be interesting to see the passenger loads for these diverted aircraft. Is there anywhere these numbers are published?
Expressflight Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:27 pm I doubt if the pax figures will be published, as they aren't usually for diversions. The Echo might mention a figure but that will almost certainly be incorrect.
I reckon the LH crew heard that the cause of the closure was a visit to London 65 years ago by the Luftwaffe, so dived into SEN quick and then kept their heads down . But, yes, a LH diversion is very rare - if ever perhaps since the days of the Viscount or Convairliner.
Guest Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:46 pm Like your reasoning on the Lufthansa diversion. Do the pax numbers get included in the monthly SEN passenger numbers (if you see what I mean)?
Southend Observer Guest Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:47 pm Surely there were more VLM diversions; did any go elsewhere?
Thames Gateway Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:47 pm Diversion pax numbers are usually included in the figures available from the CAA website in a couple of months time.
Guest Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:31 am The fact that only one VLM F50 diverted is probably due to the fact that they have LCY arrivals scheduled at 1550 and 1640 and then a gap before the next 'wave' at 1745. I'm not quite sure when LCY 's closure commenced but I think it was around 1600 so it may have been the 1640 that diverted to SEN. The 1745 wave were probably held at their departure points pending the reopening of LCY.
As far as pax figures for diversions are concerned, I checked the December 2007 CAA stats which state that 11 aircraft diverted from LCY to SEN. The domestic pax figures for SEN show 236 domestic scheduled pax and the international pax figures show 434 scheduled pax, plus 2403 charter pax (these all being Ford CGN traffic).
BUT you then check the stats for pax traffic by route, you will not find any reference to any route other than SEN-CGN. It seems that diverted pax are still credited to the route they intended to fly. For example, if a BA flight diverts into SEN on the EDI-LCY route, the pax figures still seem to appear in the EDI-LCY route statistics. I hope this helps.
Expressflight Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:33 am Sorry, the 'Guest' contribution above was from me, but I wasn't logged in at the time so it didn't carry my username.
Expressflight Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:58 am Second apology of the day! (Must ensure I'm awake before composing posts). My info on VG arrivals is rubbish - I was looking at departures.
In fact there is a 1610 arrival LCY, then a gap until a wave of arrivals at 1715/1720. I asssume these later arrivals were held at their departure points as most VG sectors are less than one hour.
Sorry for the confusion.
Expressflight Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:09 pm One other small piece of additional information is that 8 of the 17 diverted flights operated revenue sectors out of SEN to their respective destinations. Two positioned to other destinations and the other 7 positioned into LCY once it reopened.
Guest Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:11 pm Where do you get all your info Expressflight!!!
Expressflight Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:26 am The detail on the diverted flights came mainly from the Yahoo Group Southend-Airport site, plus SEN management. Anyone can apply to become a member of that 'spotters' forum (actually too spotterish for my aspects of interest but useful all the same).
Otherwise a lifetime in aviation has established a few good contacts, including a couple of very important ones at SEN, and knowing where to look on the internet for corroboration or leads.
Of course, a fanatical interest in the fortunes of SEN helps!
Sometimes confidentiality precludes immediately passing on information gleaned - as is the case at present concerning one of SEN's areas of development - but I will always post anything here that has been 'cleared' in case it's of interest to others.
Finally, no I have no idea who the successful purchaser of SEN will be in case you were wondering.
Guest Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:16 pm Thanks Expressflight. Mind you I hope Dawney Daydon;t get it. I don't think they will have anymove finance avalible to them comapred to RAL!
Humberside Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:54 pm Anonymous wrote: Mind you I hope Dawney Daydon;t get it. I don't think they will have anymove finance avalible to them comapred to RAL!
They are bidding with the Reuben brothers so I doubt finance will be an issue
Guest Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:06 pm BA cityflier diversion. does anyone know why?
Expressflight Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:32 pm I would guess at a tech problem as LCY seems to be operating normally.
Roche Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 42 Location: Essex Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:12 pm A late running BA flight from Zurich to LCY had to divert into SEN today - arrived around 1:20
Southend Observer Guest Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:02 pm Seen a few BA cityflier cancellations over the past couple of days. Have anymore diverted into SEN recently?
Expressflight Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:09 am On 18/6 there was a Cityflyer diversion from FRA, which didn't depart SEN until 20/6 and there was the ZRH diversion on 19/6 which departed to EDI.
Plus, of course, yesterday's ZRH late arrival.
Guest Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:17 pm I am under the imprssion that there was also a BA Cityflier diversion today. If so the airline has been a frequent visitor this week.
Thames Gateway Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:03 am Not diversions, but repositioning out of City due their funday, looks like 2 Dorniers and 2 RJ due in after lunch to park overnight. Possibly a further BAW RJ from Nice.
Expressflight Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:46 am Will LCY have to pay the l/fees and parking do you think?
Or will they just put in 'on account' and pay themselves the bill in a couple of months?
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Post by Thames Gateway on Jul 12, 2008 8:46:23 GMT
Maybe it is just a precaution in case it is running late for whatever reason.
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Post by roche on Jul 12, 2008 15:53:27 GMT
I understand that the BA flight from Zurich did divert. Arrived around 2:00 pm, well after the closure of LCY.
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Post by expressflight on Jul 12, 2008 16:21:36 GMT
........ and strangely the LCY arrivals board shows BA002P with an ETA 16:00 from SEN.
Don't see how that can be with LCY closed at that time.
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Post by Thames Gateway on Jul 12, 2008 16:27:07 GMT
Must mean tomorrow?
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Post by expressflight on Jul 13, 2008 7:13:42 GMT
Yes, it now appears on today's arrivals board at 16:00.
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Post by expressflight on Aug 23, 2008 10:00:19 GMT
Anyone know the reason for the GLA-LCY Cityflyer diversion into SEN yesterday evening?
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Post by Thames Gateway on Aug 23, 2008 11:22:59 GMT
GBZAZ is in the Inflite Hangar, so presumably having some rectification.
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Post by roche on Aug 26, 2008 20:49:38 GMT
Anyone know if SEN had any diversions today, due LCY being closed for a short while around 5:30 pm?
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Post by Thames Gateway on Aug 26, 2008 21:39:34 GMT
I think there were three Regional Jets, 2 British Airways and a red and white one.
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Post by expressflight on Aug 29, 2008 9:28:15 GMT
Just to clarify the Cityflyer diversion on 22/8 was G-BZAT and it arrived from GLA before positioning back to LCY.
The RJ100 that Thames Gateway referred to as receiving attention at Inflite that day was in fact G-BZAZ which positioned into SEN empty from MAD on 22/8 for maintenance.
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Post by southendobserver on Sept 2, 2008 18:46:55 GMT
Saw a 146 on the SEN ramp today when passing. I was mainly white with what looked liked a blue logo on the tail. I presume it is a diversion. Does anyone know anything about it.
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Post by Lewis on Sept 2, 2008 19:23:46 GMT
I am reliably informed its one of Flightlines 146's from Italy.
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Post by Thames Gateway on Sept 2, 2008 19:35:21 GMT
On the contrary, it is a WDL 146 operating the Ford flight for Flightline. It has 'SAS' colours on it.
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