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Post by pug on Mar 13, 2023 14:47:41 GMT
There was a pending joint statement alluded to last week by Nick Fletcher, seems strange that this has not been forthcoming yet. Maybe waiting for it to be written-up and agreed by the 3 MPs and Mayors. Whatever it says I'm sure certain characters on certain social media sites will spin it as hopeful! I understand CPO procedure requires extensive notification to all who may have an interest incluďing press notices, signs at the site etc. A very public, transparent process. Nothing about that so far so we really are talking of a very long journey for the Council IF it goes ahead. Someone on one of the smaller Save DSA groups appears to have been doing some digging on Oliver Coppard, and though they seem to be having too much of a political emphasis on this it does raise a few decent points. Apparently there is room in the budget for SYMCA to purchase DSA (although this is probably below the asking price), however Coppard has reiterated previously that there is no room in the budget for if. Coppard has said previously that he doesn’t believe the right ownership model for DSA is public sector, he has also campaigned against DSA in the past. We know Ros Jones outwardly supports a CPO, but has made little to no public statements in the last month due to ‘commercial sensitivity’, including making absolutely no provisions in the budget for a CPO at all, not even the estimated legal costs. Mark Chadwick claims this is because it could take 2 years as a minimum, but we already know Mark Chadwick is not a reliable source of information. Also, they cannot wait until the next budget to implement the initial CPO procedures as it would be far too late by then. Nick Fletcher is sitting on the side lines and throwing the odd grenade in here and there. Could it be that the local leaders and officials might actually have to accept that this is not going to happen and pen a joint statement to that effect? They’ve been suggesting that talks were still ongoing with interested party until very recently, which has given them breathing space whilst being able to hide behind the statement that they must allow Peel and ‘investor’ to discuss this privately, Peel have now quashed this and stated that no discussions have occurred since 30th November.
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Post by flyer on Mar 13, 2023 15:45:32 GMT
Maybe waiting for it to be written-up and agreed by the 3 MPs and Mayors. Whatever it says I'm sure certain characters on certain social media sites will spin it as hopeful! I understand CPO procedure requires extensive notification to all who may have an interest incluďing press notices, signs at the site etc. A very public, transparent process. Nothing about that so far so we really are talking of a very long journey for the Council IF it goes ahead. Someone on one of the smaller Save DSA groups appears to have been doing some digging on Oliver Coppard, and though they seem to be having too much of a political emphasis on this it does raise a few decent points. Apparently there is room in the budget for SYMCA to purchase DSA (although this is probably below the asking price), however Coppard has reiterated previously that there is no room in the budget for if. Coppard has said previously that he doesn’t believe the right ownership model for DSA is public sector, he has also campaigned against DSA in the past. We know Ros Jones outwardly supports a CPO, but has made little to no public statements in the last month due to ‘commercial sensitivity’, including making absolutely no provisions in the budget for a CPO at all, not even the estimated legal costs. Mark Chadwick claims this is because it could take 2 years as a minimum, but we already know Mark Chadwick is not a reliable source of information. Also, they cannot wait until the next budget to implement the initial CPO procedures as it would be far too late by then. Nick Fletcher is sitting on the side lines and throwing the odd grenade in here and there. Could it be that the local leaders and officials might actually have to accept that this is not going to happen and pen a joint statement to that effect? They’ve been suggesting that talks were still ongoing with interested party until very recently, which has given them breathing space whilst being able to hide behind the statement that they must allow Peel and ‘investor’ to discuss this privately, Peel have now quashed this and stated that no discussions have occurred since 30th November. Oliver Coppard is right in believing there are more important issues for the people of South Yorkshire than an airport. A nice to have but nothing more. Mayor Jones has a belief that DSA "could and should" be revived but can't find a way to make that happen apart from a risky shot at CPO. Nick Fletcher wants to absolve his government from any responsibility. Are they likely to agree to throw in the towel? I doubt it. I expect something bland about continuing the fight. Maybe re-framing the aim from a DSA re birth to some aviation activity as a City Airport.
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Post by pug on Mar 14, 2023 21:14:54 GMT
A Joint Update on Doncaster Sheffield Airport (DSA) from Mayor Ros Jones, Mayor Oliver Coppard & Doncaster's MPs - 14 March The Mayors of Doncaster and South Yorkshire and the city’s three MPs have given the latest update on efforts to secure the future of Doncaster Sheffield Airport (DSA). Substantial preparations and background work continues to take place as part of the potential acquisition of the airport through a Compulsory Purchase Order (CPO), if no sale is forthcoming. As part of the CPO process, this week (w/c 13th March) City of Doncaster Council will be engaging with local landowners and occupiers in and around the potential development area. This is known as land referencing and will map out what land is owned or occupied by whom so landowners and occupiers can be contacted with further details about any future project so they are able to comment on any proposals. This would also include what the CPO could cover and how the proposed site could be designed. The process would mean that those potentially affected would be contacted to discuss any land rights required by the council for the project. In addition to land referencing, engagement continues with Peel and other parties around the potential for a negotiated sale of DSA. In a joint statement Mayors Ros Jones (City of Doncaster Council) and Oliver Coppard (South Yorkshire) and three Doncaster MPs (Rt. Hon. Dame Rosie Winterton MP, Rt.Hon. Ed Miliband MP and Nick Fletcher MP) said: “As Mayors and MPs, we are collectively working to save our airport. We all want to see our airport reopen, secure the future of aviation in Doncaster and support the economy of Doncaster and South Yorkshire. “As part of these efforts, the City of Doncaster Council is leading work to secure a CPO for the airport site. A CPO is a complex and often lengthy process taking up to two years. “The sensitive nature of this activity means much of the work must happen behind the scenes and we support the measures that are being put in place. “Of course we would rather Peel does the right thing and sell the airport to an interested party. “We will continue to work together where this does not prejudice the CPO process. “We will of course keep the public and business community updated on progress as and when we can.” www.doncaster.gov.uk/services/transport-streets-parking/doncaster-sheffield-airport-statements
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Post by flyer on Mar 14, 2023 21:29:06 GMT
A Joint Update on Doncaster Sheffield Airport (DSA) from Mayor Ros Jones, Mayor Oliver Coppard & Doncaster's MPs - 14 March The Mayors of Doncaster and South Yorkshire and the city’s three MPs have given the latest update on efforts to secure the future of Doncaster Sheffield Airport (DSA). Substantial preparations and background work continues to take place as part of the potential acquisition of the airport through a Compulsory Purchase Order (CPO), if no sale is forthcoming. As part of the CPO process, this week (w/c 13th March) City of Doncaster Council will be engaging with local landowners and occupiers in and around the potential development area. This is known as land referencing and will map out what land is owned or occupied by whom so landowners and occupiers can be contacted with further details about any future project so they are able to comment on any proposals. This would also include what the CPO could cover and how the proposed site could be designed. The process would mean that those potentially affected would be contacted to discuss any land rights required by the council for the project. In addition to land referencing, engagement continues with Peel and other parties around the potential for a negotiated sale of DSA. In a joint statement Mayors Ros Jones (City of Doncaster Council) and Oliver Coppard (South Yorkshire) and three Doncaster MPs (Rt. Hon. Dame Rosie Winterton MP, Rt.Hon. Ed Miliband MP and Nick Fletcher MP) said: “As Mayors and MPs, we are collectively working to save our airport. We all want to see our airport reopen, secure the future of aviation in Doncaster and support the economy of Doncaster and South Yorkshire. “As part of these efforts, the City of Doncaster Council is leading work to secure a CPO for the airport site. A CPO is a complex and often lengthy process taking up to two years. “The sensitive nature of this activity means much of the work must happen behind the scenes and we support the measures that are being put in place. “Of course we would rather Peel does the right thing and sell the airport to an interested party. “We will continue to work together where this does not prejudice the CPO process. “We will of course keep the public and business community updated on progress as and when we can.” www.doncaster.gov.uk/services/transport-streets-parking/doncaster-sheffield -airport-statements What's the phrase that comes to mind - oh it's " nothing to see here" and it's wrong of them to imply there will be alot of confidentiality implications in this process. Some yes, but it's a public project using public money so by definition it's not like private sector negotiations.
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Post by pug on Mar 14, 2023 21:38:58 GMT
A Joint Update on Doncaster Sheffield Airport (DSA) from Mayor Ros Jones, Mayor Oliver Coppard & Doncaster's MPs - 14 March The Mayors of Doncaster and South Yorkshire and the city’s three MPs have given the latest update on efforts to secure the future of Doncaster Sheffield Airport (DSA). Substantial preparations and background work continues to take place as part of the potential acquisition of the airport through a Compulsory Purchase Order (CPO), if no sale is forthcoming. As part of the CPO process, this week (w/c 13th March) City of Doncaster Council will be engaging with local landowners and occupiers in and around the potential development area. This is known as land referencing and will map out what land is owned or occupied by whom so landowners and occupiers can be contacted with further details about any future project so they are able to comment on any proposals. This would also include what the CPO could cover and how the proposed site could be designed. The process would mean that those potentially affected would be contacted to discuss any land rights required by the council for the project. In addition to land referencing, engagement continues with Peel and other parties around the potential for a negotiated sale of DSA. In a joint statement Mayors Ros Jones (City of Doncaster Council) and Oliver Coppard (South Yorkshire) and three Doncaster MPs (Rt. Hon. Dame Rosie Winterton MP, Rt.Hon. Ed Miliband MP and Nick Fletcher MP) said: “As Mayors and MPs, we are collectively working to save our airport. We all want to see our airport reopen, secure the future of aviation in Doncaster and support the economy of Doncaster and South Yorkshire. “As part of these efforts, the City of Doncaster Council is leading work to secure a CPO for the airport site. A CPO is a complex and often lengthy process taking up to two years. “The sensitive nature of this activity means much of the work must happen behind the scenes and we support the measures that are being put in place. “Of course we would rather Peel does the right thing and sell the airport to an interested party. “We will continue to work together where this does not prejudice the CPO process. “We will of course keep the public and business community updated on progress as and when we can.” www.doncaster.gov.uk/services/transport-streets-parking/doncaster-sheffield -airport-statements What's the phrase that comes to mind - oh it's " nothing to see here" and it's wrong of them to imply there will be alot of confidentiality implications in this process. Some yes, but it's a public project using public money so by definition it's not like private sector negotiations. Indeed, in fact Ros Jones has been quizzed a few times on her Facebook comments on this update as to whether Peel are still in talks with ‘UAE’ investor. She has said there are interested parties then goes on to trot out the old statement in quotation marks to the effect that these interested parties may wait for a CPO. I still think they’re stalling here. Peel will know they have no legal standing to push for a CPO, and the longer this drags on the more it will damage their reputation when it comes to private sector regeneration schemes. What they’re telling us is, ‘don’t invest here as if we don’t like it we will try make things difficult for you and it’s therefore a high risk investment in an already unattractive location’.
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Post by pug on Mar 18, 2023 12:10:00 GMT
Nick Fletcher latest update; ‘AIRPORT CLOSURE - WEEK 36 JOINT STATEMENT This week saw the issue of the joint statement of the Mayors of Doncaster and South Yorkshire and the 3 MPs in Doncaster. It can be found here: /? BUDGET The Budget has dominated events this week and rightly so. It’s been a wonderful budget for Doncaster where we have achieved much I was asking Government for. CPO I called for a CPO of the airport from the outset. That was in July 2022 when the airport was first threatened with closure. I was told then and since that it was premature and that it couldn’t be done. I disagreed. I knew then as I do now that there is a great deal of preparation that has to be done before the process can start. There is no reason why that should not have been started then. It would also have signalled to Peel that we were serious. We are where we are though and sadly we can’t go back in time. The CPO process has started so we need to ensure it doesn’t falter or get delayed. PEEL’S ANNOUNCEMENT I have also written to the Mayor regarding Peel’s announcement (reported in the Yorkshire Post - 06.03.23) that they have had no contact for four months and that since then the consortium have not provided any evidence at all of their financial status which is necessary for money laundering and counter-terrorism legislation. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer?wprov=sfti1 for a general overview. Both Mayors have assured me that the UAE Consortium is credible and that it has made a credible offer. I have been in contact with Peel and they have stated the information they have requested with regards to any purchase of such an asset at present has not been forthcoming. It doesn’t affect the CPO though which must be driven through as quickly as possible. SUMMARY We need the airport reopened and the sooner the better. I will always campaign for that regardless of party politics. I’m a Doncaster lad and I know how important that airport is to our town, our City and our people. We need a strong local economy and that airport should be the foundation stone of it all. I will always Speak Up Doncaster and look after its best interests. It’s not party politics that guides me. It’s common sense.’ Interesting that he has sought confirmation from Peel that they have not been in talks with any interested buyer since November, in spite of what others would want us to believe. A person claiming to be involved in council/regional business development claims that a lot is going on behind the scenes to see the airport reopen. Still, nobody has thought to do any genuine analysis of the demand.
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Post by flyer on Mar 19, 2023 7:51:27 GMT
Nick Fletcher latest update; ‘AIRPORT CLOSURE - WEEK 36 JOINT STATEMENT This week saw the issue of the joint statement of the Mayors of Doncaster and South Yorkshire and the 3 MPs in Doncaster. It can be found here: /? BUDGET The Budget has dominated events this week and rightly so. It’s been a wonderful budget for Doncaster where we have achieved much I was asking Government for. CPO I called for a CPO of the airport from the outset. That was in July 2022 when the airport was first threatened with closure. I was told then and since that it was premature and that it couldn’t be done. I disagreed. I knew then as I do now that there is a great deal of preparation that has to be done before the process can start. There is no reason why that should not have been started then. It would also have signalled to Peel that we were serious. We are where we are though and sadly we can’t go back in time. The CPO process has started so we need to ensure it doesn’t falter or get delayed. PEEL’S ANNOUNCEMENT I have also written to the Mayor regarding Peel’s announcement (reported in the Yorkshire Post - 06.03.23) that they have had no contact for four months and that since then the consortium have not provided any evidence at all of their financial status which is necessary for money laundering and counter-terrorism legislation. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer?wprov=sfti1 for a general overview. Both Mayors have assured me that the UAE Consortium is credible and that it has made a credible offer. I have been in contact with Peel and they have stated the information they have requested with regards to any purchase of such an asset at present has not been forthcoming. It doesn’t affect the CPO though which must be driven through as quickly as possible. SUMMARY We need the airport reopened and the sooner the better. I will always campaign for that regardless of party politics. I’m a Doncaster lad and I know how important that airport is to our town, our City and our people. We need a strong local economy and that airport should be the foundation stone of it all. I will always Speak Up Doncaster and look after its best interests. It’s not party politics that guides me. It’s common sense.’ Interesting that he has sought confirmation from Peel that they have not been in talks with any interested buyer since November, in spite of what others would want us to believe. A person claiming to be involved in council/regional business development claims that a lot is going on behind the scenes to see the airport reopen. Still, nobody has thought to do any genuine analysis of the demand. [/quote Becoming clear the much vaunted UAE bid came from a area under close scrutiny for laundering Russian money ( Financial Times). By the end of November it was known that they could not provide Peel with the information needed to progress their bid. Between November and now DSA campaigners have been allowed to continue to believe the UAE bid was still active when a clear statement from DMBC would have explained the situation. It was up to them to ask Peel- cant think it would have been a secret.' No wonder some campaigners are angry whilst others are in denial. Quite a mess really and is indicative of a messy approach to the whole DSA issue by the Councils.
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Post by pug on Mar 19, 2023 22:46:47 GMT
Two key points that an authority must provide evidence for in relation to a CPO, viability of the scheme they intend for the land to be purchased, and proof of funding. If they cannot provide evidence of even one of those a CPO is rejected.
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Post by pug on Mar 31, 2023 16:46:37 GMT
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Post by pug on Apr 12, 2023 8:57:13 GMT
Been reported elsewhere that l approach lights on the 20 end are in the process of being removed, no official word yet but it’s on the day of the council vote to gain unanimous support to reopen the airport. Wonder if this is a coincidence or whether Peel have sanctioned this as a talking point at the vote? I do think this is a bit underhand.
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Post by flyer on Apr 12, 2023 19:39:24 GMT
Been reported elsewhere that l approach lights on the 20 end are in the process of being removed, no official word yet but it’s on the day of the council vote to gain unanimous support to reopen the airport. Wonder if this is a coincidence or whether Peel have sanctioned this as a talking point at the vote? I do think this is a bit underhand. Lots of excitement on the save dsa social media sites from people who are reading alot in today's statement from the Mayor. My reading of it is the only things that new are 1) the Mayor's strategy has been formally endorsed and funded by her Cabinet colleagues and 2) they have authorised the use of a power to require Peel to apply for planning permission for site changes (not a real barrier for Peel as they would fight their case for permission and appeal higher if needed.) Terms for leasing don't seem to have moved forward in 4+ months since Peels offer was made and, whilst she talks of investor interest, she does not specify the the area of interest or extent.
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Post by pug on May 15, 2023 11:45:42 GMT
Been reported elsewhere that l approach lights on the 20 end are in the process of being removed, no official word yet but it’s on the day of the council vote to gain unanimous support to reopen the airport. Wonder if this is a coincidence or whether Peel have sanctioned this as a talking point at the vote? I do think this is a bit underhand. Lots of excitement on the save dsa social media sites from people who are reading alot in today's statement from the Mayor. My reading of it is the only things that new are 1) the Mayor's strategy has been formally endorsed and funded by her Cabinet colleagues and 2) they have authorised the use of a power to require Peel to apply for planning permission for site changes (not a real barrier for Peel as they would fight their case for permission and appeal higher if needed.) Terms for leasing don't seem to have moved forward in 4+ months since Peels offer was made and, whilst she talks of investor interest, she does not specify the the area of interest or extent. Today there is/as a planned meeting between Doncaster City Council and Peel L&P regarding the leasehold offer which Peel have made to DCC. Same week there are plans to implement an Article 4 Directive which would require Peel to submit Planning Applications in to demolish any building on site. Not sure if this can apply to the runway. Can’t imagine there will be much goodwill at this meeting today.
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Post by flyer on May 15, 2023 13:07:52 GMT
Lots of excitement on the save dsa social media sites from people who are reading alot in today's statement from the Mayor. My reading of it is the only things that new are 1) the Mayor's strategy has been formally endorsed and funded by her Cabinet colleagues and 2) they have authorised the use of a power to require Peel to apply for planning permission for site changes (not a real barrier for Peel as they would fight their case for permission and appeal higher if needed.) Terms for leasing don't seem to have moved forward in 4+ months since Peels offer was made and, whilst she talks of investor interest, she does not specify the the area of interest or extent. Today there is/as a planned meeting between Doncaster City Council and Peel L&P regarding the leasehold offer which Peel have made to DCC. Same week there are plans to implement an Article 4 Directive which would require Peel to submit Planning Applications in to demolish any building on site. Not sure if this can apply to the runway. Can’t imagine there will be much goodwill at this meeting today. Let's face it - they might as well be talking in different languages. Peel will not be prepared to disadvantage their business in any way to satisfy the Councils sense of entitlement to an airport for area. I fear the time for constructive dialogue has passed.
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Post by pug on Jun 5, 2023 18:45:59 GMT
South Yorkshire Mayor Oliver Coppard has pledged to fund the purchase of the airport should a CPO be successful, this is in addition to granting the funding requested by Doncaster City Council (£6.2 million in total, £3.1 from SYMCA) to fund a feasibility study. southyorkshire-ca.gov.uk/new...Xj9l71LN2CFnPsNo mention yet of how much they are willing to stump up for the airport, presumably this would be based on their value of the land as an airport only which I assume would be challenged all the way by Peel L&P.
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Post by pug on Jun 30, 2023 17:34:53 GMT
Joint statement on our efforts to #saveDSA SAVE Doncaster Sheffield Airport
As part of City of Doncaster Council preparations for a potential lease of the former Doncaster Sheffield Airport (DSA) site from owners Peel, it has launched a search to find an investor/operator for the airport.
The council has gone out to the market that specialises in this sector ranging from investors with the capital to invest in the airport to aviation experts who have the experience and technical knowledge of running an airport to find the support it needs if the lease is agreed. The council is continuing its negotiations with Peel in the meantime.
This is an extremely positive step to deliver a successful future for the airport. We share this determination, and all believe an airport site of this size and calibre, even now closed, is an attractive proposition to the aviation industry and early feedback in this investor search seems to reflect our collective view. This complex piece of work is of course commercially confidential so there are no further details that can be shared. This initiative will continue into the summer and an update will be given when there is more to say and at the appropriate time.
We are hopeful that this initiative will ultimately reopen the airport. However, we are realistic that this is a complex undertaking and there are no guarantees. The council is still prepared to carry out a Compulsory Purchase Order for the site as an ultimate backstop if either a direct sale by Peel to a party that has shown previous interest or a lease to the council do not transpire.
#doncasterisgreat #saveDSA
The investor search begins..
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