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Post by tagron on Nov 14, 2019 12:31:02 GMT
Serves me right for being too quick on the draw, ignoring my own advice !
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Post by expressflight on Nov 14, 2019 17:17:33 GMT
Serves me right for being too quick on the draw, ignoring my own advice ![/quote I had problems with the schedules for CFR and GRQ as well and spoke to Flybe this morning about it. The problem is that the calendar that you can click on when making flight selections is incomplete at the moment and they're going to fix it. This morning there were only seven flights shown in May and it's up to about twenty now so they're getting there!
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Post by Thames Gateway on Nov 16, 2019 20:37:24 GMT
The cancellation of LCY-RNS by FlyBe next summer should boost SEN-RNS over the summer hols.
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Post by tagron on Nov 16, 2019 20:48:44 GMT
Yes, and in 2018 they operated up to three daily flights on SEN-RNS, including an E195. Passenger numbers for July/August were 5944 & 6252.
IN 2019 it was 2 per day and the numbers were 4653 and 5807. But I don't know for sure how many services.
Credit for the pax numbers info: Thames Gateway on this forum.
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Post by tagron on Nov 21, 2019 23:05:42 GMT
Changes to GRQ and CFR for 2020 now that the timetable has settled down !
GRQ starts at 11/week then reduces to 6/week in April and remains at that level through summer.
CFR starts at 4/week in February, increases to 6/week in May ands remains at that frequency through summer
Compared with last summer, Caen is increased but Groningen reduced.
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Post by Thames Gateway on Nov 26, 2019 13:11:33 GMT
Following up on Tagron's 1st Nov post, EI-GHK busy training at LCY today.
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Post by Thames Gateway on Feb 2, 2020 19:36:13 GMT
RNS goes to 2 per week day from 17 April, 2 per day on Sun from 3rd May to 27 Sep, and 2 per day all week (i.e. Sat also) from 23rd May to 5th Sep. largely similar to last year, but a few more flights; the timings are slightly improved for a business day, and the flight numbers have also changed to BE3520/1 & BE3528/9. I wonder if the flight number changes are part of the Virgin Connect bigger picture?
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Post by tagron on Mar 5, 2020 3:42:16 GMT
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Post by Thames Gateway on Mar 5, 2020 9:11:34 GMT
I hope so, but the established routes of Rennes, Caen & Groningen, how can you now book a flight? I could not see on the Air France website, even though there used to be a code-share established. Virgin Connect seems to be going nowhere (the holding page for them was always on the FlyBe website!), so no booking engine through them. It would be a shame for these routes to have to be canned.
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Post by Thames Gateway on Mar 5, 2020 9:56:40 GMT
Whilst Virgin Airlines site mentions the existence of the above flights, they seem to be deliberately discouraging finding them by opaquely listing Caen as 'Carpiquet', Groningen as 'Eelde' and Southend as Southend (not even under the general LON tag). Rennes is the only one where you would expect it to be. None of them will allow any booking to be made as I type!
Consensus now seems to be that this will likely be the end of the STK flights operated out of SEN, and of the Virgin Connect project.
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Post by Thames Gateway on Mar 6, 2020 9:30:22 GMT
With reference to the RNS/CFR/GRQ routes, wouldn't you have expected an approach to be made to AF/KLM to operate the routes on their flight numbers/booking engines? I guess the uncertainties raised by COVID19 mean that Stobart are not willing to restart them any time soon - if so that is a shame after the amount of years they have invested in operating these routes and adding to the attractiveness of the SEN offering. I would imagine some 2nd home owners will be quite put-out, especially if they bought the house based on the route being available, unwise though that would have been.
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Post by tagron on Mar 6, 2020 10:58:15 GMT
The real question surely is just how profitable were these SEN ATR routes,and are there better returns available from ACMI work, which has been the recent area of expansion for STK ? Does STK have any real interest at all in operating these routes especially now that there is no franchise provider ready to take over since Virgin Connect has seemingly died ?
The case for STK to be used as a means of growing the airport is surely less compelling than two years ago. On the other hand Stobart clearly have wanted to develop a domestic network from SEN to broaden the scope of its business and that is understandable. I cannot see anyone else trying if STK are out of the frame. Sadly SEN has approaching a complete failure rate on domestics unless you include JER by EZY.
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Post by Thames Gateway on Mar 10, 2020 11:15:20 GMT
Looking at the Blue Islands booking engine, I see that SEN is (sort of) listed for GCI-SEN flights, but all not available. It lists type ATR-72, the timings are different from those in operation last year. Is this just what is now not happening, or an indication of something else?
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Post by aurigny72 on Mar 10, 2020 22:45:21 GMT
Looking at the Blue Islands booking engine, I see that SEN is (sort of) listed for GCI-SEN flights, but all not available. It lists type ATR-72, the timings are different from those in operation last year. Is this just what is now not happening, or an indication of something else? I noticed this a few days ago when i looked at the BI site, i think you will find the timings are the same as last year and i think its a glitch on their system, although i didnt see SEN listed as a destination when i first looked at it. I cant really see them announcing it now, especially with this awful virus getting worse. If they did it should only operate twice a week for the Summer only, not the daily service they operated last summer and carried it on all through the winter at 5 days a week, that was never going to work. BI must have lost a packet with that over ambitious schedule.
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Post by Thames Gateway on Mar 11, 2020 10:46:24 GMT
I agree, I don't think this was originally on the Blue Islands site when it went live.
At the risk of dancing on a pin-head for a while, the times are actually slightly different to last year:
Mon -Fri last year 0945-1100/1125-1240 Mon -Fri this year 0930-1045/1115-1230
Sat last year 1215-1330/1355-1510 Sat this year 0930-1045/1115-1230 until 25 Apr Sat this year 1220-1335/1405-1520 from 2 May - 16 May Sat this year 1655-1810/1840-1955 from 23 May - 30 May Sat this year 1435-1550/1620-1735 from 6 June - 29 Aug Sat this year 1655-1810/1840-1955 from 5 Sept - 12 Sept Sat this year 1655-1810/1840-1955 from 19 Sept - 26 Sept
Sun last year 1225-1340/1405-1520 Sun this year 1655-1810/1840-1955 until 26 Apr Sun this year 1520-1635/1700-1815 2 May - 30 Aug Sun this year 1655-1810/1840-1955 6 Sept- 27 Sept
No flights are listed after 30 Sept, whereas last year they were, I believe.
I surmise that this maybe what was to have been the planned SEN operation this summer, with modified times from last year. I think this is backed up slightly by the omission of the LHR flights appearing in a similar manner on the new booking engine. It may well be that Blue Islands now believe (in the rapidly developing situation) that they have a much better utilisation for the aircraft involved in a daily SEN.
Or as you say, probably just a computer glitch!!
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