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Post by mrmoose on Apr 20, 2017 5:47:33 GMT
Thomson have released there initial Summer 18 programme.
Palma is back on sale for Summer 18. Operates Tuesday 1/5/18 to 23/5/18 using Thomson Airways (Will be fully TUI airways UK by then I understand). Timings are:
PMI 1030 > HUY 1215 HUY 1345 > PMI 1720
Note the planned 90 minute turn around time, which seems excessive, even allowing time for a crew changeover. The timings do not appear to fit with the NWI based aircraft being used either, which is down to operate a Palma Tuesday rotation in the morning, but returns directly back to NWI.
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Post by lbaspotter on Apr 20, 2017 12:13:39 GMT
If tbe timings fit the Humberside flight could be operated by the Leeds based aircraft, as it's doing a w-leg Palma somewhere on Tuesdays next summer 2018.
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Post by Humberside on Apr 20, 2017 16:46:01 GMT
Good to see Palma back again for next year. LBA would be a more logical base than NWI to operate the flight as it would be less distance for the crews to travel to/from base
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Post by mrmoose on Apr 20, 2017 19:18:26 GMT
LBA, DSA or EMA would be the obvious choices to reduce the costs of moving crews around. I have spent a bit of time doing some dummy bookings on their website, and can't see anything that fits. LBA doesnt work from the timings provided (LBA 0805 - PMI 1145, PMI 2025 - LBA 2210). I suspect the LBA aircraft will be W into Liverpool. The only feasible way the HUY timings could work is with a flight leaving the UK around 6am, to get to Palma for around half 9 local time.
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Post by hullcityfan on Apr 29, 2017 18:21:39 GMT
Our HUY aircraft for the Summer 2018 Palma flights originates from London Stansted. The aircraft will operate to the following schedule every Tuesday May - October:
STN - PMI: 06:00 - 09:25 PMI - HUY: 10:30 - 12:15 HUY - PMI: 13:45 - 17:20 PMI - STN: 18:20 - 19:50
Looks to be a B737-800 too!.
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Post by Humberside on May 3, 2017 18:28:15 GMT
Balkan Holidays on sale - Weekly Bourgas 19th May to 29th September
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Post by christ on Jul 19, 2017 1:48:51 GMT
Still no sign of Jetxtra for 2018? Seems very late for them based on their previous announcements.
Maybe assessing how this years longer series goes... but they're losing out on early sales to all the other operators now on sale.
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Post by flyer on Aug 14, 2017 17:01:52 GMT
Looks like Jetxtra will be back for 2018 because airport are offering a holiday with them to the Costa Blanca as a prize at an event this Wednesday (airport Twitter feed). There are only 2 departures left this year. Surely they will not be expecting the prize winner to go so soon!
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Post by flyer on Aug 29, 2017 15:13:43 GMT
Alicante no longer showing as a destination on the airport's website. Looks like Jetxtra have pulled. There's no reason why this route should not work with good marketing and pricing. Loads must have been good enough for the last 3 seasons to keep them coming back so why pull now when the Alicante market is red hot? Is another operator coming who would provide too much competition?
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Post by mrmoose on Aug 29, 2017 18:28:25 GMT
Great shame. I hope somebody fills the gap, but I have no idea who would be interested, unless Eastern were to operate in house through HAT, but this seems unlikely.
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Post by lbaspotter on Aug 29, 2017 21:50:07 GMT
Wonder if Eastern Airways might be tempted to have a go at Spanish routes out of Humberside using the Embrear 175's operating under the Flybe franchise/brand?
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Post by christ on Aug 30, 2017 5:49:36 GMT
I guess the problem probably wasn't loads but the yield, although this years do seem lower than previous years so far, only 70% in July which isn't great, but there's no way they'll have been able to match costs with a BA charter against Flybe's DSA prices. I'm surprised they didn't try the package holiday market when they knew they couldn't compete on flight only prices at the moment.
Looks like Palma has probably been dropped as well then and apparently the company who are now running jetxtra may have dropped the Monaco grand prix flight they do from HUY too, that seems strange as that was always pretty full... wonder if there has been a falling out with the airport or something...
Have a feeling Eastern would have the same issue, their fares just won't be attractive enough against other operators.
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Post by mrmoose on Aug 30, 2017 19:05:47 GMT
Seat only is pretty much all tied up in a neat bow with Flybe at DSA. Even with the new partnership with Eastern, I can't see them risking their growing customer base down the road, which I understand is quite heavily supported by the airport (and may even have a clause about operating from other airports nearby?). Only way Eastern could compete is on packages, although that said some of their ABZ fares seem to be a bit more reasonable recently, Plenty of flights on for about £79 if you book a few weeks in advance, which I am sure is less than they used to charge and probably compares OK with other operators once a checked bag is added to a booking? Only options I see are:
Ryanair - Possible, they have been and gone in the past, but are now more focused on larger airports. Their nearest bases at Leeds and East Midlands do leave something of a gap in this area though, and Alicante worked well for them loads wise last time around, although no idea on yield. Easyjet - Don't seem to do small bases. Jet2 - Don't seem to do "W"'s into non-bases, and I think if we were going to be a base, we would have been by now. Seems even less likely now their are moving towards a fully 738 operation, making a new small base even riskier. Monarch - Now seem to be focusing on bigger bases, although with Jet2 moving south, might be tempted to try something the others are not? Thomson - Dropped Tenerife, so doesn't bode well for expansion on other routes.
Im afraid the only outcome I see realistically, is another year of reduced charter operations. Hopefully I get proved wrong!
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Post by pug on Aug 30, 2017 20:16:53 GMT
The Commercial manager has said in the recent past that low cost airlines are not on their agenda. Thomson are entrenched at DSA, and I just don't see any other airline as being feasible these days. That boat sailed years ago. I'm afraid the local passengers are only going to lose out on this one. I think this tie in with Flybe is another nail in the coffin for Eastern. I'm not sure what the plans are for Humberside with Bristows now majority owners, but I would bet fixed wing isn't high on the agenda.
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Post by tugman on Sept 7, 2017 18:16:25 GMT
Alicante no longer showing as a destination on the airport's website. Looks like Jetxtra have pulled. There's no reason why this route should not work with good marketing and pricing. Loads must have been good enough for the last 3 seasons to keep them coming back so why pull now when the Alicante market is red hot? Is another operator coming who would provide too much competition? Found this tonight on Jetxtra website www.jetxtra.com/Looks a bit more promising than before.
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