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Jun 15, 2010 19:59:16 GMT
Post by pug on Jun 15, 2010 19:59:16 GMT
I hope you dont mind A-H, just thought i would start a new thread for speculation about possible new routes BE could offer next year should AGP take off like is hoped.
So far i can think of perhaps AGP going to 2xweekly? new routes to PMI, ALC and FAO?
Perhaps they could look at new markets such as Nice and Dubrovnik?
It would seem that if they could work towards having that kind of schedule then a based EMB jet would be feasible.
I must point out that these are the very optimistic possibilities, just thought it would be interesting to start up a topic regarding the whole future operations from HUY. It is interesting afterall that HUY is the only (i believe) non-base to have a Spannish destination with them.
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Jun 16, 2010 10:30:52 GMT
Post by Humberside on Jun 16, 2010 10:30:52 GMT
I'm not expecting very much at all from Flybe due to 'logistics'
Expansion needs w patterns and w patterns are costly. Also during the week Flybe use their EMB-190's on domestic routes in the morning and evening. They have no time to operate say SOU-AGP-HUY-AGP-SOU in between. So apart from peak summer when business travel demand reduces, I don't expect any weekday EMB-190 flights. So maybe a Saturday Palma or hopefully a longer operating season for Malaga but nothing huge
And I can't ever see a based aircraft. Even for year round markets like Malaga they peak in summer - in winter a based aircraft would have very little to do considering it wouldn't have the range to get to say Sharm El Sheik and possibly the Canaries would be out of range too
I'm surprised we have got Malaga in the first place and I'm sure the airport must have given heavy incentives to get the route since I presume a crew change is needed at HUY involviing a long distance coach trip
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Jun 16, 2010 13:49:51 GMT
Post by pug on Jun 16, 2010 13:49:51 GMT
That is very true but at leats it cou.d actually prove that there is demand for such routes from HUY, i believe there would be sufficient demand year round, more so than is displayed at BLK, yet such a shame LS put their aircraft there instead, i hope such a thing doesnt happen again in the future.
Also not to forget that HUY will have HOTAC facilities next year too, which is directly associated with MAG i believe, so a potential offer of covering accomodation could secure an outstation or something, much like the EZY at DSA...
It is possible just depends on what management want and are prepared to offer i suspect.
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Jun 19, 2010 14:03:01 GMT
Post by kirmingtonuser on Jun 19, 2010 14:03:01 GMT
On the subject of W patterns , do Flybe use their domestic route network to position their crews ? In Norway, Wideroe uniformed flight crew were often to be seen travelling as passengers on Braathens SAFE aircraft.
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Jun 19, 2010 15:27:28 GMT
Post by Humberside on Jun 19, 2010 15:27:28 GMT
I don't think Flybe have much need to position crews. Any domestic w patterns such as IOM-LTN-JER can be done with one set of crew since they aren't that long
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Jun 19, 2010 18:37:09 GMT
Post by watcher72 on Jun 19, 2010 18:37:09 GMT
Do they not have crew based at Manchester and Newcastle for any changes?
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Jun 20, 2010 8:19:39 GMT
Post by Humberside on Jun 20, 2010 8:19:39 GMT
They do have crews at MAN and I think NCL. I've no idea if they use those crews on HUY-AGP or not but in general the short flight times in the Flybe network mean that w patterns can be done without acrew change
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Jul 13, 2010 9:51:50 GMT
Post by bmedboy on Jul 13, 2010 9:51:50 GMT
BE entering a codeshare interlining agreement with AF. This would be a good fit for a HUY-CDG route, although I don't see it happening. It would give them a reason to base a Q400. I still believe there is room for both AMS and CDG within the skyteam umbrella from HUY.
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Mike
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Jul 13, 2010 17:21:43 GMT
Post by pug on Jul 13, 2010 17:21:43 GMT
If (and this is a very big, unlikely IF) BE were to open a CDG route surely it would be once daily and useless for connections? I just cannot see the demand now that KLM have made a tight operation at HUY since they took over AirYuk.
I have a feeling DSA will be onto BE now to try and get a piece of this market, though if EZY are staying i dont know if BE will expand, due to the risk of competition on a route like CDG.
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Jul 14, 2010 9:23:38 GMT
Post by huytiger on Jul 14, 2010 9:23:38 GMT
Gill Air used to operate the Air France franchise once a day from HUY, and used to get some interliners.
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Jul 14, 2010 9:48:40 GMT
Post by pug on Jul 14, 2010 9:48:40 GMT
The Gill Air route was 2 x daily with one flight on sat and sun.
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Jul 14, 2010 9:52:53 GMT
Post by Humberside on Jul 14, 2010 9:52:53 GMT
Once daily would be fine for European connections, but I would far rather the 4th daily KLM remains all year round and the AMS loads in general pick up first. The route has been through a tough time recently and we dont want a CDG service damaging it. In the current climate I think it could
Also lets not forget that currently HUY is an extremely small part of the Flybe network - just two weekly seasonal flights, one of which is a 'glorified' charter
The AF deal is an interesting move for BE, but not one I think will affect HUY
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Jul 14, 2010 18:06:47 GMT
Post by pug on Jul 14, 2010 18:06:47 GMT
As i said in my last post, i very much doubt the AF/KLM group would want to cannibalise their own AMS service by adding a route to CDG..
I have posted before, that a few years ago KLM were looking at a way to add to their committment to HUY and were discussing an idea to add CDG to their schedules. This obviously came to nothing and i can only assume that this is due to them not wanting to effect their current offering.
I would very much like to be proven wrong, as another interline route would be very good, say mid morning and teatime rotations to compliment the AMS route, but i cant see it happening.
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Jul 14, 2010 19:22:21 GMT
Post by richardtaylor on Jul 14, 2010 19:22:21 GMT
Agree with Pug. Cannot see the Group diluting the AMS route by introducing CDG. Stranger things have happened of course, but I can't see it.
My airport gets away with a link to both as the oil industry can support this.
Maybe the renewables industry, if the hype is to be believed, will generate more demand for routes?
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Jul 20, 2010 10:38:55 GMT
Post by bmedboy on Jul 20, 2010 10:38:55 GMT
flybe just placed a huge order for Embraer 175 aircraft. This would be perfect for HUY sun routes, Malaga seems to be doing well, this could actually happen!
Regards
Mike
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