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Post by pug on Mar 1, 2012 14:25:21 GMT
Not the most reliable of posters, but 'tonto' has posted on Pprune that someone in 'senior management' has mentioned that Monarch are the 'established carrier' they are in discussions with regarding replacing routes. I presume he means as a replacement for jetXtra.
Im pretty sure that when Nexus failed, all affected passengers were transfered to Monarch from Manchester. That could be what tge 'senior management' meant?
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Post by visitor on Mar 1, 2012 15:03:33 GMT
Would it be the airport arranging alternatives in the case of failure to deliver flights sold or would it be the CAA with the failed company itself?
Whatever, you could be right that the Monarch rumour might be about alternatives for holidays/fights sold. On the other hand it could be about trying to get Monarch to pick up either Jetxtra routes or Ryanair's Alicante or both.
A difficult situation to read and we won't know much until the future of Jetxtra is made clear.
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Post by pug on Mar 1, 2012 15:34:01 GMT
It would not be the responsibility of the airport, however it could have been what that manager meant and has been lost in translation. Possibly answering the question of 'what is happening with jetXtra?'
Alternatively (and most likely if he really is correct for once), then as you say it will be with a view to replacement flights and possibly more. I would have said it could allow Olympic the capacity to reinstate LCA, but I seem to remember Olympic no longer use Monarch?
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Post by tugman on Mar 2, 2012 9:12:39 GMT
Heard a little whisper about Monarch a few weeks ago, but filed it alongside all the other rubbished rumours. Surely if Monarch were to start/cover flights from HUY, they would already be putting out correspondence/advertising to ensure bums on seats.After all they are a noted and respected carrier and would do a professional job and not be shilly shallying around making and breaking promises. I may be wrong of course! Has the LCA been scrubbed altogether as there seems to be no sign of it on HUY timetables or HAT adverts?
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Post by rossbailey on Mar 2, 2012 13:39:19 GMT
This might seem to be a daft question. But where are Monarch going to find a spare Airbus A320/321 from this summer as I understand the current fleet is fully utilised now?
They may have a spare Boeing 757-200 knocking about. As I know the one planned to be based at Leeds has now been cancelled as Thomas Cook are putting there own Airbus A320 back in there this summer season.
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Post by Humberside on Mar 2, 2012 15:22:15 GMT
The idea of Monarch or anyone else being able to successfully launch anything other than a few peak season flights at this late stage is a bit fanciful IMO. Write off Summer 2012. Summer 2013 brochures (and initial Jet 2 flights) will be out in a few months time. If I was HUY I'd be focusing on that as tour operators start making initial plans
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Post by tugman on Mar 5, 2012 13:16:35 GMT
I would think the few who have already managed to book with jetXtra will be easily accommadated on Monarch's flights out of MAN.Why would Monarch want the expense of flying in to HUY to serve the few who have been left looking for a paddle in mucky creek? The whole thing is a mess.I would suggest if Jet2 were interested they would have just gone head to head with jetXtra in the first place by placing an aircraft here for the summer.If Monarch saw a potential they would have been more pro-active too.
We know the potential and customer base is here,and that the airport can cope with increased numbers of passengers.The question must be why is it not selling itself to ANY prospective airlines? Price?Branding? Services? If this question remains unanswered at the top and the results not acted upon,Humberside will disappear as a commercial airport.The only trade will be helicopters.Personally I for one believe that the heli trade,although very welcome business at times,has impacted too deeply on the commercial side. HUY or rather MAN it seems would quite happlily let it become Humber heliport.The Southern apron has been given over to Bristow's as has Stand 1.Passengers are either held or have to walk to/from the gates to a ear shattering din of whirling rotors.KLM pushbacks have been held much to the annoyance of their flight crew while helicopter traffic abounds. The management,in my humble opinion,must start looking at the whole picture.It's all well and good looking after certain aspects of trade here,but not a the expense of all the rest.If the future is a heliport then so be it.Pull the terminal down and rebuild/extend the heli terminal.If not,move the heli traffic away from commercial/leisure passengers. Apologies,a little off topic there!!!
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Post by visitor on Mar 28, 2012 13:21:32 GMT
Travelmole (or was it Travel Weekly, one of the two) reporting today that Monarch are to launch at least 10 new routes from new airports in the next few weeks. Monarch say they have been looking for good deals not only on price but also on the willlingness and capacity of airports to work with them to fill seats. HAT have a proven record doing this - Flybe and Ryanair for instance. Wouldn't it be good to think that Monarch knew this too!
Wishful thinking???
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Post by pug on Mar 28, 2012 13:53:37 GMT
Possible, but I expect DSA would be in the running too. HUY does have route development work focussed at MAN now.. So it could help them broker a deal, not to mention HAT as you say.
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Post by john2408 on Mar 28, 2012 21:01:20 GMT
It was Travelmole, and Monarch are to purchase 2 Airbus 320 for this venture.
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Post by Humberside on Mar 28, 2012 22:30:33 GMT
My interpretation of the article is that they were talking to foreign airports close to key ski destinations - all the other airport/city references in the article were to overseas locations
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Post by pug on Mar 29, 2012 9:19:39 GMT
Thats probably correct Humberside, but the article is vague. The point is that HUY appears to fit their criteria, and though.its unlikely that ZB would announce flights for next summer so early; with rumours of HUY in discussions with Monarch, and HAT having a good track record of promoting flights, HUY could be in for a chance of being part of any UK expansion in the future.
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Post by tugman on Mar 29, 2012 17:41:30 GMT
Very interesting.After the rumours of Monarch coming to HUY,the key looks to be what incentives are there for them to fly from/to.Is this the defining moment in the making or breaking of a well loved airport? Bargaining must be carefully assessed by the parties involved,if,of course,HUY are in the frame at all..
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Post by pug on Mar 29, 2012 17:59:01 GMT
I suspect they talk to quite a few airlines so I wouldn't think so. Clearly any deal offered to a prospective operator would have to suit the airport too.
All I'm suggesting (and it shouldn't be read into too much), is like visitor suggested earlier. HAT have a growing record for helping fill flights out of HUY by using social media to excellent effects, not to mention regular large adverts in local media outlets. It suggests in the article that ZB are looking for airports that not only offer a good deal, but are also proactive in their approach to getting bums on seats. I would suggest that HUY has that in the form of HAT, what we dont have is knowledge of the sort of deals being offered to airlines and operators. Clearly that is commercially sensitive, particularly with heigntened competition from DSA down the road and that airport also after the same sort of flights.
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Post by Humberside on Mar 29, 2012 23:00:59 GMT
Monarch would be an ideal operator HUY. Scheduled low cost but with their own tour operator and willing to work with other tour operators. However, until now at least, their bases have been at large airports, and any w patterns from Spain etc would require a crew changeover at HUY, or nightstopping in Spain - and these cost. For these reasons I would be surprised to see a Monarch scheduled service at HUY any time soon. Hope I'm wrong though
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