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Post by kirmingtonuser on Jul 13, 2022 10:57:06 GMT
Doncaster Sheffield Airport has today issued a statement on the future of the Finningley site. Peel is to start a consultation programme to discuss its potential future use to generate growth in the Doncaster Sheffield region. After engaging consultants, they have concluded that 'aviation activity on the site may no longer be commercially viable'.
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Post by pug on Jul 13, 2022 12:33:03 GMT
Think this is nothing more than another offloading/funding exercise. Peel clearly don’t want to run it as an airport, but I’m sure would quite happily sell it to the local council at a much inflated price much like MME. I don’t foresee closure imminently, although it would potentially benefit HUY significantly if it does. Watch this space for a bit of TUI expansion at HUY off the back of any uncertainty.
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Post by feverdream on Jul 13, 2022 12:36:39 GMT
Think this is nothing more than another offloading/funding exercise. Peel clearly don’t want to run it as an airport, but I’m sure would quite happily sell it to the local council at a much inflated price much like MME. I don’t foresee closure imminently, although it would potentially benefit HUY significantly if it does. Watch this space for a bit of TUI expansion at HUY off the back of any uncertainty. Was just about to say, can only be positive for HUY, even if they only pick up a few new routes from TUI.
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Post by pug on Jul 13, 2022 12:43:24 GMT
Think this is nothing more than another offloading/funding exercise. Peel clearly don’t want to run it as an airport, but I’m sure would quite happily sell it to the local council at a much inflated price much like MME. I don’t foresee closure imminently, although it would potentially benefit HUY significantly if it does. Watch this space for a bit of TUI expansion at HUY off the back of any uncertainty. Was just about to say, can only be positive for HUY, even if they only pick up a few new routes from TUI. I definitely think there will be discussion with HUY and perhaps a couple more routes on offer for next summer whatever happens with this. TUI will not be happy.
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Post by mrmoose on Jul 13, 2022 18:12:11 GMT
fingers crossed HUY benefits from this. Certainly DSA took a significant chunk of our charter traffic over the years. If DSA closes, TUI will loose quite a presence in the area, having a minimal programme from LBA, I can see extra routes from EMA, LBA and hopefully HUY as well to try and maintain their market share in the area.
That said, I do expect DSA will end up being sold on and continue to operate in some form, perhaps in the same way teeside has?
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Post by flyer on Jul 14, 2022 7:10:09 GMT
This "Review" is about implementing a major decision not making one.It's about seeking to mitigate harm to some stakeholders facing change/loss. Peel will have worked-through plans for this valuable land, they seen a future that does not involve a commercial, passenger airport. No mention of looking for a buyer, they see profitable use in other activities. Reports elsewhere point to the area's potential for warehousing,distribution etc.
As Pug says, this announcement will immediately end any interest in the airport from airlines and tour operators beyond this summer. They will now focus on run-down and alternative airports. Anyone know if HUY have someone tasked with route development?
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Post by kirmingtonuser on Jul 14, 2022 9:31:50 GMT
That implies that if Peel did sell to a local authority for continued airport use, they would want the full development value of the land (to what extent is this controlled by local authorities via the planning process?). They seemed to achieve this when selling MME. One would expect a commercial vendor to conduct confidential (in order to avoid negative publicity and uncertainty) sale negotiations over months and years. Perhaps this has already happened without any meaningful result. Three months to a potential closure looks an inadequate timescale in which to conduct sale negotiations.
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Post by flyer on Jul 15, 2022 6:46:20 GMT
Be interesting to see what Wizz do. I guess they mainly carry passengers from the Eastern European diaspora who need good onward transport connections in the UK. Doncaster's mainline rail connections have provided that. Humberside certainly doesn't measure up to that spec.
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Post by pug on Jul 15, 2022 8:44:14 GMT
Be interesting to see what Wizz do. I guess they mainly carry passengers from the Eastern European diaspora who need good onward transport connections in the UK. Doncaster's mainline rail connections have provided that. Humberside certainly doesn't measure up to that spec. Possibly move their services to East Midlands. I suspect the reason they jumped was down to this and not the other way around as had been alluded at the time. I do hope the owners of Humberside are actioning something to ensure they are able to offer suitable facilities for some of the businesses at DSA. Would be an ideal location for 2Excel and NPAS, but would need some capital invested. Wouldn’t be surprised if Scampton was on their radar too.
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Post by flyer on Jul 15, 2022 9:16:49 GMT
Yep,EMA a good situation geographically for their operation Pug. I tend to agree that they likely suspected this move by Peel was on the cards. I can't believe that the appearance of external consultants asking questions and the departure of senior managers were not picked-up by Wizz. Very probable that assurances were not sought about the future from DSA and not given. TUI are in a different position- well embebed at DSA unlike Wizz who were beginning a major investment which they could pull quickly.
Let's hope HUY are working on new business as a result of this. We don't seem to hear much about this these days.No "insider" leaks like we used to get
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Post by flyer on Jul 15, 2022 9:19:27 GMT
Woops -should read "assurances sought and not given"
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Post by pug on Jul 15, 2022 9:58:28 GMT
Yep,EMA a good situation geographically for their operation Pug. I tend to agree that they likely suspected this move by Peel was on the cards. I can't believe that the appearance of external consultants asking questions and the departure of senior managers were not picked-up by Wizz. Very probable that assurances were not sought about the future from DSA and not given. TUI are in a different position- well embebed at DSA unlike Wizz who were beginning a major investment which they could pull quickly. Let's hope HUY are working on new business as a result of this. We don't seem to hear much about this these days.No "insider" leaks like we used to get I wouldn’t be surprised if Wizz were tipped off about this by one of the departing managers. I suspect that the increase in based aircraft by Wizz would have just widened operating losses even further. DSA is just far too big a footprint to be able to be cost effective when they are forced to offer unsustainable subsidies due to lack of a large enough market. HUY are at the whim and fancy of the Eastern Group, sadly. But I believe the man at the top is pretty switched on to opportunities and the eradication of the competition might mean that plans are afoot to capture some lost business and some sustainable expansion of ancillary and other aviation business as mentioned above.
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Post by flyer on Jul 15, 2022 11:12:10 GMT
Pug, reassuring to hear you feel someone senior is switched-on to the opportunities for HUY.The next few weeks be interesting. TUI must now be engaged in a complete re-think. Uncertainty is always bad for business so I'm sure they will seek to end it as soon as possible.
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Post by kirmingtonuser on Jul 21, 2022 8:27:38 GMT
Someone on pprune has discussed the options open to Wizzair in the event of DSA's closure. They point out that a large proportion of the current Wizzair passengers are heading for Lincolnshire, so the logical alternative airports are East Midlands and Humberside.
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Post by pug on Jul 21, 2022 10:09:15 GMT
Someone on pprune has discussed the options open to Wizzair in the event of DSA's closure. They point out that a large proportion of the current Wizzair passengers are heading for Lincolnshire, so the logical alternative airports are East Midlands and Humberside. If DSA does close, and assuming Wizzair wanted to maintain a presence, I’m not so sure HUY would be happy to accept them. I’ve heard differing opinions as to the openness of the Humberside owners to welcome new commercial flights to the airport. I suspect that if DSA is removed from the equation, risk is somewhat reduced, but that’s just me being optimistic.
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