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Post by pug on Dec 15, 2022 18:54:14 GMT
Yes, interesting. A more measured account of the DSA saga that contrasts with some of the un-hinged, conspiracy stuff that has populated social media. Interesting that the disappointment felt by Peel that local authorities did not engage when first alerted to the serious situation at DSA is clearly stated. Also confirms that Peel are exploring with another party whether aviation activity is possible on the site. Not clear what that means - and maybe they don't either at this point. There's profit, jobs and economic development in Peels new plans for the site and the loss of opportunity to make those thing happen will be a big consideration. …and now the white crosses have appeared on the runway. I wonder whether this is a CAA requirement? Seems it would be a strange thing to do if you were going to sell the airport as an airport? Would appear to me that they are closing the airport regardless and someone would have to offer a significant sim to buy it and then a large amount more to get it back up and running.
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Post by pug on Jan 20, 2023 12:40:45 GMT
I’ve heard that there have been people from other airports visiting DSA over the last couple of days, buying up some of the fixtures and fittings and other assets as Peel are keen to sell them all off. Doesn’t look like they’re all that interested in seeing the airport sold and reopened.
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Post by flyer on Jan 21, 2023 7:49:44 GMT
Nick Fletcher MP on his Twitter and Facebook says he asked the Aviation Minister to find out what's the latest state of play. She responded that there had not been any progress re potential buyers. I'm sure she will have have direct access to Peel for information as well as DMBC. Also he says the Oposition on the Council have started to press for full information on the cost of the Mayors strategy. The mood music seems to increasingly negative for a re-opening.
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Post by pug on Jan 27, 2023 19:10:13 GMT
Update from Nick Fletcher following a meeting with DMBC this morning. To summarise, Robert Hough from Peel is on holiday so couldn’t attend. Ros Jones ominously absent and the meeting was held on Zoom and sounds like it was a PowerPoint presentation delivered by DMBC appointed lawyers. Nick hasn’t mentioned specifics but is ‘more optimistic’ than he was before about saving the airport. Strange that Ros Jones didn’t bother to attend the meeting.
Meanwhile, Humberside Airport fire service have been down to DSA to eye up various bits of equipment including the fire trucks themselves. LBA appear to have bought some equipment as have another airport that were wanting to buy some runway clearing equipment.
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Post by flyer on Jan 27, 2023 20:30:12 GMT
Update from Nick Fletcher following a meeting with DMBC this morning. To summarise, Robert Hough from Peel is on holiday so couldn’t attend. Ros Jones ominously absent and the meeting was held on Zoom and sounds like it was a PowerPoint presentation delivered by DMBC appointed lawyers. Nick hasn’t mentioned specifics but is ‘more optimistic’ than he was before about saving the airport. Strange that Ros Jones didn’t bother to attend the meeting. Meanwhile, Humberside Airport fire service have been down to DSA to eye up various bits of equipment including the fire trucks themselves. LBA appear to have bought some equipment as have another airport that were wanting to buy some runway clearing equipment. Nick Fletcher says nothing to justify his optimism other than the legal teams presentation (which I'm guessing would be their work plan to progress the CPO.) No mention of talks with buyers, leasing or CAA extending closure of airspace timetable. So unless some information has been held back nothing has changed - DMBC going for a CPO.
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Post by pug on Feb 1, 2023 21:12:14 GMT
Along side fixtures, fittings and equipment being sold off. Nav aids are being snapped up now too.
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Post by flyer on Feb 2, 2023 8:19:45 GMT
Along side fixtures, fittings and equipment being sold off. Nav aids are being snapped up now too. Good to hear what's happening on the ground because that gives a better indication of the true situation. Reading various statements it's becoming clear that the local authorities now have the limited objective of retaining the possibility that the site can, at sometime in the future, re-open for some form of aviation activity. Retaining the capability to improve area's transport infrastructure. Meanwhile, as this strategy plays out, the airport is being dismantled - an indication of the owners intent not to be deflected.
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Post by pug on Feb 2, 2023 10:15:25 GMT
Along side fixtures, fittings and equipment being sold off. Nav aids are being snapped up now too. Good to hear what's happening on the ground because that gives a better indication of the true situation. Reading various statements it's becoming clear that the local authorities now have the limited objective of retaining the possibility that the site can, at sometime in the future, re-open for some form of aviation activity. Retaining the capability to improve area's transport infrastructure. Meanwhile, as this strategy plays out, the airport is being dismantled - an indication of the owners intent not to be deflected. I agree, equipment and terminal fixtures and fittings fine, they might get rid of that stuff anyway. But nav aid and the like provide a statement of intent. This sort of stuff costs a fortune to set up and calibrate. Not sure if the approach lights are part of the selling iff process.
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Post by pug on Feb 3, 2023 18:52:45 GMT
Further update from Nick Fletcher. Land owners from whom Peel lease land for approach lights and nav aids have been notified via solicitors that the equipment will be removed. I expect that the approach lighting has been sold along with the nav aids as mentioned in my previous post.
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Post by flyer on Feb 3, 2023 21:07:48 GMT
Further update from Nick Fletcher. Land owners from whom Peel lease land for approach lights and nav aids have been notified via solicitors that the equipment will be removed. I expect that the approach lighting has been sold along with the nav aids as mentioned in my previous post. Everything points to no deal with a buyer and full steam ahead with Peels plans.
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Post by pug on Feb 3, 2023 22:13:58 GMT
Further update from Nick Fletcher. Land owners from whom Peel lease land for approach lights and nav aids have been notified via solicitors that the equipment will be removed. I expect that the approach lighting has been sold along with the nav aids as mentioned in my previous post. Everything points to no deal with a buyer and full steam ahead with Peels plans. DSAmole on PPrune has posted to claim it’s over and talks have not continued. Usually quite a reliable source.
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Post by pug on Feb 10, 2023 12:44:11 GMT
Guy from Save DSA has been posting last few days about talks still ongoing between Peel and UAE investor, with some supposedly taking place last Friday.
Couple of points on that..
DSA Mole posted on PPrune on Friday evening saying it was ‘game over’ suggesting Peel had made it very difficult for anyone to keep interested. Were these talks the conclusion?
On the same day Nick Fletcher posted an update to say the landowners with whom DSA has an lease agreement to place the approach lights and marker beacons on had been notified by solicitors to the termination of the lease and the removal of the equipment.
Added to this, why would a company in talks to sell the whole airport want to sell off its assets to other airports, many of which being direct competitors?
I think Mark Chadwick is trying to save his group more than he is DSA, if he really is as informed as he claims to be he must surely know by now that Peel really do not have any intention in selling and no buyer would seriously pay the asking price for a failed airport to keep it as an airport, a point which Peel will know all too well.
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Post by flyer on Feb 10, 2023 13:08:15 GMT
Guy from Save DSA has been posting last few days about talks still ongoing between Peel and UAE investor, with some supposedly taking place last Friday. Couple of points on that.. DSA Mole posted on PPrune on Friday evening saying it was ‘game over’ suggesting Peel had made it very difficult for anyone to keep interested. Were these talks the conclusion? On the same day Nick Fletcher posted an update to say the landowners with whom DSA has an lease agreement to place the approach lights and marker beacons on had been notified by solicitors to the termination of the lease and the removal of the equipment. Added to this, why would a company in talks to sell the whole airport want to sell off its assets to other airports, many of which being direct competitors? I think Mark Chadwick is trying to save his group more than he is DSA, if he really is as informed as he claims to be he must surely know by now that Peel really do not have any intention in selling and no buyer would seriously pay the asking price for a failed airport to keep it as an airport, a point which Peel will know all too well. The 2 weekly briefing that was apparently agreed for local MPs should be due today. If so, no doubt Mayor and Nick Fletcher will post something. Yes, alot of hopeful people being encouraged by that site - based on what information, from whom I wonder!!
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Post by pug on Feb 10, 2023 16:24:49 GMT
Guy from Save DSA has been posting last few days about talks still ongoing between Peel and UAE investor, with some supposedly taking place last Friday. Couple of points on that.. DSA Mole posted on PPrune on Friday evening saying it was ‘game over’ suggesting Peel had made it very difficult for anyone to keep interested. Were these talks the conclusion? On the same day Nick Fletcher posted an update to say the landowners with whom DSA has an lease agreement to place the approach lights and marker beacons on had been notified by solicitors to the termination of the lease and the removal of the equipment. Added to this, why would a company in talks to sell the whole airport want to sell off its assets to other airports, many of which being direct competitors? I think Mark Chadwick is trying to save his group more than he is DSA, if he really is as informed as he claims to be he must surely know by now that Peel really do not have any intention in selling and no buyer would seriously pay the asking price for a failed airport to keep it as an airport, a point which Peel will know all too well. The 2 weekly briefing that was apparently agreed for local MPs should be due today. If so, no doubt Mayor and Nick Fletcher will post something. Yes, alot of hopeful people being encouraged by that site - based on what information, from whom I wonder!! The meeting was cancelled by Ros Jones according to Nick Fletcher due to no updates to report. Obviously ammunition for the political slanging match that ensues. But why have a meeting when there is nothing to report? And why is there nothing to report? Possibly because Ros Jones has received information that Peel have ended talks with the interested consortium that Ros Jones and Oliver Coppard put in front of them perhaps? Or maybe there is an outside chance that Peel have actually sold the site and awaiting public announcement, though that is the unlikely scenario for the reasons mentioned in my previous post, however the slight nugget in Nicks post suggests Peel may now not be terminating the land leases for the approach lighting….
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Post by flyer on Feb 13, 2023 11:06:00 GMT
The 2 weekly briefing that was apparently agreed for local MPs should be due today. If so, no doubt Mayor and Nick Fletcher will post something. Yes, alot of hopeful people being encouraged by that site - based on what information, from whom I wonder!! The meeting was cancelled by Ros Jones according to Nick Fletcher due to no updates to report. Obviously ammunition for the political slanging match that ensues. But why have a meeting when there is nothing to report? And why is there nothing to report? Possibly because Ros Jones has received information that Peel have ended talks with the interested consortium that Ros Jones and Oliver Coppard put in front of them perhaps? Or maybe there is an outside chance that Peel have actually sold the site and awaiting public announcement, though that is the unlikely scenario for the reasons mentioned in my previous post, however the slight nugget in Nicks post suggests Peel may now not be terminating the land leases for the approach lighting…. Update on Save Dsa - nothing new apart from no mention of a change of plan on lease notices by Peel. Insistent UAE interest still live. New article in Financial Times 8th February reports "increasing concern in West" about UAE's financial connection with Russia. They've licenced a new Russian Bank to operate to service the large ex-pat Russian community.
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