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Post by flyer on Nov 6, 2022 15:22:53 GMT
TUI summer 2024 should be launched from this Thursday - the 10th - I believe.
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Post by pug on Nov 6, 2022 19:49:30 GMT
TUI summer 2024 should be launched from this Thursday - the 10th - I believe. I don’t suppose there’ll be much else for HUY at this stage, see what happens this month with talks over DSA.
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Post by kirmingtonuser on Nov 10, 2022 9:25:19 GMT
Quite right!
TUI are showing Palma outbound on Tuesdays from 7th May 2024 to 22nd October 2024 departing HUY at 14.05. The final inbound is on 29th October departing PMI at 10.50. Operated by TUI Airways.
Their website is still showing DSA as a nearby alternative to Humberside.
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Post by flyer on Dec 2, 2022 6:34:23 GMT
Balkan back for summer 2024 - same flight times/days and length of season.
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Post by kirmingtonuser on Feb 21, 2023 11:57:11 GMT
The first Sunday Burgas flight is on 26th May and the first Thursday flight is on 20th June. The final inbound Sunday flight is on 22nd September and the final inbound Thursday flight is on 12th September.
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Post by pug on Apr 21, 2023 12:12:24 GMT
TUI have released their S24 growth plans today, with added based aircraft at BOH, BRS, BHX, EMA, NCL, GLA and MAN. This presumably is the result of the surplus aircraft following the closure of DSA amongst other things. There will be expansion from existing non-base airports such as MME and EXT and some capacity increases at CWL. So, nothing new for HUY and it would appear nothing in the pipeline either. Surprised there is nothing new for LBA but I suppose it’s a Jet2 stronghold.
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Post by permit123 on Apr 21, 2023 13:57:02 GMT
On initial thoughts, it’s disappointing. Maybe the numbers just don’t work financially? A potential base may forecast a loss for the airport, a risk they just maybe aren’t willing to take. Genuinely cannot see any other reasons for why HUY isn’t cashing in on the closure of DSA. I guess we can hope for a deal with Ryanair for some summer sun flights, other than that, chances are looking increasingly slim.
Sad really
Permit123
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Post by pug on Apr 21, 2023 14:38:01 GMT
On initial thoughts, it’s disappointing. Maybe the numbers just don’t work financially? A potential base may forecast a loss for the airport, a risk they just maybe aren’t willing to take. Genuinely cannot see any other reasons for why HUY isn’t cashing in on the closure of DSA. I guess we can hope for a deal with Ryanair for some summer sun flights, other than that, chances are looking increasingly slim. Sad really Permit123 They’d rather the apron full of business jets paying full whack for landing and handling charges whilst also running at a bare minimum staffing level in critical areas such as ATC and fire cover. Absolutely no interest in what’s happened at DSA, wouldn’t be surprised to see 2Excel up and leave once Teesside has its new hangars in place. The owners only seem interested in the core business of helicopters and maybe KLM and Eastern. Note though that growth with KLM has stalled, whilst airports that always under performed relative to HUY have now a pretty much pre-pandemic level of flights by KLM. I might be wrong but it is more than likely due to HUY not having the staff to enable a full schedule to commence. Doubt TUI are all that interested so the airport would need to reach out to them. Doubt they do much of this sort of thing these days. Sad state of affairs, things good have been very different had Peel listened to the experts and not built DSA. Not to be.
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Post by flyer on Apr 21, 2023 15:11:03 GMT
On initial thoughts, it’s disappointing. Maybe the numbers just don’t work financially? A potential base may forecast a loss for the airport, a risk they just maybe aren’t willing to take. Genuinely cannot see any other reasons for why HUY isn’t cashing in on the closure of DSA. I guess we can hope for a deal with Ryanair for some summer sun flights, other than that, chances are looking increasingly slim. Sad really Permit123 They’d rather the apron full of business jets paying full whack for landing and handling charges whilst also running at a bare minimum staffing level in critical areas such as ATC and fire cover. Absolutely no interest in what’s happened at DSA, wouldn’t be surprised to see 2Excel up and leave once Teesside has its new hangars in place. The owners only seem interested in the core business of helicopters and maybe KLM and Eastern. Note though that growth with KLM has stalled, whilst airports that always under performed relative to HUY have now a pretty much pre-pandemic level of flights by KLM. I might be wrong but it is more than likely due to HUY not having the staff to enable a full schedule to commence. Doubt TUI are all that interested so the airport would need to reach out to them. Doubt they do much of this sort of thing these days. Sad state of affairs, things good have been very different had Peel listened to the experts and not built DSA. Not to be. I'm sure there is a story to be told about TUI /HUY here but we can only guess what it is at this time. The expectation of growth as a result of DSAs closure was widespread i.e. not just us HUY supporters.The fact that its not happened is either a strategic choice or bad management. Either way I'm not now optimistic about seeing a better range on the departure board in the near future.
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Post by pug on Apr 21, 2023 15:33:58 GMT
They’d rather the apron full of business jets paying full whack for landing and handling charges whilst also running at a bare minimum staffing level in critical areas such as ATC and fire cover. Absolutely no interest in what’s happened at DSA, wouldn’t be surprised to see 2Excel up and leave once Teesside has its new hangars in place. The owners only seem interested in the core business of helicopters and maybe KLM and Eastern. Note though that growth with KLM has stalled, whilst airports that always under performed relative to HUY have now a pretty much pre-pandemic level of flights by KLM. I might be wrong but it is more than likely due to HUY not having the staff to enable a full schedule to commence. Doubt TUI are all that interested so the airport would need to reach out to them. Doubt they do much of this sort of thing these days. Sad state of affairs, things good have been very different had Peel listened to the experts and not built DSA. Not to be. I'm sure there is a story to be told about TUI /HUY here but we can only guess what it is at this time. The expectation of growth as a result of DSAs closure was widespread i.e. not just us HUY supporters.The fact that its not happened is either a strategic choice or bad management. Either way I'm not now optimistic about seeing a better range on the departure board in the near future. They used to have an aviation development director with the purpose of generating new business. This was after it was purchased by Eastern Airways so it wasn’t an MAG legacy. The current owners are US based and probably very rarely get involved in any meaningful way so I imagine the operation is constrained by budgets outside of their influence. I suppose all we can hope for is that Bristow decide to get rid of it, or an airport group like Rigby see it for what it is and try to purchase it. I don’t think any of us are under any illusion that the catchment area is large, but it’s just got a hell of a lot less limited than it was a year ago. Scope for development is much larger than what seems to be happening at the moment. I think North Lincolnshire council should start asking some questions, problem is have they bought the DMBC Kool aid about reopening DSA?
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Post by pug on May 6, 2023 17:49:32 GMT
Humberside have managed to recruit some more controllers so the temp closures have now been cancelled. Wonder if we might see some longer opening hours from now on, which might lead to more flights.
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Post by flyer on May 6, 2023 19:56:34 GMT
Humberside have managed to recruit some more controllers so the temp closures have now been cancelled. Wonder if we might see some longer opening hours from now on, which might lead to more flights. Sounds like very good news - hope it does result in more routes. As has been said often - Humberside has potential to grow now that DSA is closed.
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Post by pug on May 6, 2023 20:09:38 GMT
Humberside have managed to recruit some more controllers so the temp closures have now been cancelled. Wonder if we might see some longer opening hours from now on, which might lead to more flights. Sounds like very good news - hope it does result in more routes. As has been said often - Humberside has potential to grow now that DSA is closed. That’s still up in the air with Mayor of Doncaster still relentlessly pursuing the reopening of DSA at all cost. So we may have to wait a good while before the dust has settled on that. I’m hoping Bristow are approached by someone like Rigby Group with a view to taking it over, they have an excellent track record with small regional airports.
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Post by flyer on May 7, 2023 6:58:28 GMT
The Mayor is talking about early 2025 as the earliest they could acquire the airport land and buildings if CPO goes through without further legal challenge. What then? They need to secure an operator, airlines, staff, ATC equipment etc - these parties/people will not sign-up until details of the deal for them are absolutely clear and the project looks viable. They may flag up early "interest" but thats all. In a sense, her plan to acquire the land is the straight forward part of the Council's strategy. What needs to happen after that is anything but straight forward. It becomes a speculative commercial venture with many unkowns and risk.
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Post by pug on May 7, 2023 8:00:02 GMT
The Mayor is talking about early 2025 as the earliest they could acquire the airport land and buildings if CPO goes through without further legal challenge. What then? They need to secure an operator, airlines, staff, ATC equipment etc - these parties/people will not sign-up until details of the deal for them are absolutely clear and the project looks viable. They may flag up early "interest" but thats all. In a sense, her plan to acquire the land is the straight forward part of the Council's strategy. What needs to happen after that is anything but straight forward. It becomes a speculative commercial venture with many unkowns and risk. I think the leasehold is key here, as the latest update from her said that Peel had returned with another leasehold offer which their ‘property and aviation advisors’ are drafting a response to. If it comes to CPO it just won’t reopen. However whilst there’s still even a glimmer of hope for DSA it might be premature for HUY to make sufficient investment.
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