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Post by expressflight on Mar 23, 2012 7:32:16 GMT
Just an update on a couple of things resulting from attending French Connect earlier this week:
JOIN Regional Airlines are making some progress with funding and a new strategy is currently being explored. If all goes well the results would be very positive.
A European airline is considering using SEN for ad hoc charters with 737s and possibly basing one aircraft there next Summer. The presence of ATC Lasham is a big plus in that regard.
The people behind GLM have sold their EOS system to GRQ to coincide with the opening of routes there by Vueling and Ryanair. If this results in sales to other airports it would help the prospects for GLM getting launched.
The 'new' SEN was very well received at FC by everyone I spoke to with the marked exception of one large UK airline. It was a shame that SEN didn't have a delegation at FC, but only someone who was a delegate for a French airport and, with their approval, took the latest brochures with him to hand out and talk through.
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Post by devonian on Mar 23, 2012 8:15:57 GMT
That recalcitrant large UK airline wasn't based in Devon, by any chance....?
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Post by PLASTIC PADDY on Mar 23, 2012 8:44:12 GMT
What? british Westpoint? I thought they had gone years ago.
Seriously though is it the airline who perhaps operate Q400's and Embraers?
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Post by expressflight on Mar 23, 2012 8:47:59 GMT
As a politician would say "Any talk of it being Flybe would be pure speculation."
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Post by PLASTIC PADDY on Mar 23, 2012 8:58:39 GMT
What I find hard to understand is why they don't like SEN as they had a nice little earner on the Jersey run for several years
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Post by devonian on Mar 23, 2012 15:54:48 GMT
An astonishing lack of awareness, and an astonishing lack of vision IMHO.......
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Post by expressflight on Apr 3, 2012 8:01:54 GMT
Something rather strange appeared on the Germania website a couple of days ago and is still there this morning.
On their scheduled and charter flight timetable there are shown no less than 11 destinations from SEN. Sabiha Gokcen (Istanbul) is there as expected, but with three departures per week. Also shown as reguar flights are Dusseldorf at four times weekly commencing this Thursday (!) and Munich at twice weekly commencing 8/5. Memmingham (Bavaria) is shown as twice weekly throughout the summer wef 18/5. Other destinations, shown as either a short series of charters or one-offs are Berlin, Bremen, Cologne, Hanover, Munster/Osnabruck and Stuttgart.
All flights are shown as being for Ford Motor Company.
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Post by Tagron on Apr 3, 2012 11:09:44 GMT
I seem to remember a post somewhere a few months ago predicting daily Germania movements. Was it by movementman on this forum ? I can't find it now.
The Germania schedule (if it happens !) shows flights every day of the week. Mondays and Fridays look the busiest, to the extent that multiple aircraft may be involved. And the flights to DUS, FMM, MUC and SAW appear to continue through to October.
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Post by Tagron on Apr 3, 2012 11:22:17 GMT
Edit: Instead of "every day of the week" I should have written "every weekday".
And that European airline thinking of basing a 737 at SEN could be Germania, or someone else ?
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Post by expressflight on Apr 3, 2012 15:07:26 GMT
Someone else.
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Post by expressflight on Apr 5, 2012 8:25:56 GMT
The Germania website now shows the SEN-DUS as commencing 10 April, rather than today. The Thursday flight has been deleted, so now on SEN-DUS on Monday, Tuesday & Friday & DUS-SEN on Monday & Tuesday. I suppose the Friday flight could be a continuation to DUS of the SAW-SEN service.
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Post by Tagron on Apr 5, 2012 8:26:31 GMT
I found the rumour of the Germania flights I referred to above. It was by Lewis Appleby on the old pprune thread. Apologies to movementman for taking his name in vain !
Further comment on the Ford thread.
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Post by expressflight on Apr 7, 2012 10:28:48 GMT
I see that the Germania website timetable page now shows a Friday DUS-SEN in addition to the Monday and Tuesday flights previously shown. Commencement date is still shown as 10th April.
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Post by expressflight on Apr 11, 2012 7:33:54 GMT
I'm led to believe that a certain airline has looked at the feasibility of operating A320s from SEN, both as diversions and on a w-pattern, and has concluded that landings are possible with a full load but departures would be payload restricted beyond PMI or FAO. They also concluded that the A321 would not be commercially viable from SEN, not least because the landing distance is insufficient.
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Post by devonian on Apr 11, 2012 19:24:51 GMT
For what they are worth, Flightglobal gives the following take off and landing distances for the A320 family:
A319 T/O 1625m Landing 1372m A320-200 T/O 2158m Landing 1899m A321-200 T/O 2362m Landing 1676m
Obviously these are averages which I guess are virtually meaningless! But they give the relative distances required for each type, so the A319 shouldn't be limited at all, but the others will struggle. I'm surprised that the mystery airline thought the A320 could fly as far as PMI and FAO, if true that's actually quite useful for SEN because many viable destinations are well within that range.
Another aircraft that has been mentioned as a possibility is the Boeing 757-200. The T/O distance is given as 2324m and the landing distance as 1426m. And, while we're at it, the Boeing 737-800 requires 2307m for T/O and 1660m for landing.
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