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Flybe
Apr 23, 2014 19:40:11 GMT
Post by airportman on Apr 23, 2014 19:40:11 GMT
I completely agree with expressflight although a small set back maybe not a disaster!
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Flybe
Apr 24, 2014 6:50:46 GMT
Post by Thames Gateway on Apr 24, 2014 6:50:46 GMT
Maastricht is now on sale from 10th July. From the timings, it appears to be the second flight of the day for the aircraft used (doesn't night stop at Maastricht).
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Flybe
Apr 24, 2014 16:40:17 GMT
Post by aurigny72 on Apr 24, 2014 16:40:17 GMT
Well maybe disaster was the wrong word to use but i certainy wouldnt regard it as a small setback, if we cant get a airline such as Flybe to operate flights from SEN in their own right other than the summer only sevice to Newquay, when there is a proven market out there for Belfast and Edinburgh,these two routes didnt work out for Easyjet because the A319 was to big to offer the required frequency of at least two flights a day, also basing the aircraft at SEN was a disavantage for incoming pax to get into the City or central London for early business meetings. I would have thought the Q400 or the EMB175 would be very good sized aircraft for these two routes and for others such as Glasgow for instance. Instead Flybe have chosen to compete with Cityjet on their well established service to Dublin and a very strange decison to take on BA on their prime route from LCY TO EDI which they operate up to 8 flights a day on their Embraer Jets, unless they can offer a lot cheaper fares with their Q400s i cant see that working for them, also its a fact that Belfast has never worked from LCY. Still we shall wait and see what happens. I very much hope the new Stobart Air/Flybe routes will do well, time will tell.
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Flybe
Apr 25, 2014 7:25:26 GMT
Post by expressflight on Apr 25, 2014 7:25:26 GMT
aurigny72
Certainly Flybe could have chosen to operate to BHD and EDI from SEN and I agree that commercially that would have made sense after easyJet have demonstrated that there is a reasonable market for both.
Flybe's decision to operate the routes from LCY instead of SEN simply indicates that they believe (rightly or wrongly and time will tell us which) that there is a bigger market from LCY that will support multiple daily rotations, which SEN obviously could not support. They had stated recently that they wanted to re-establish a London presence and have chosen LCY instead of STN, LTN or SEN. Would you have been less unhappy if they had chosen LTN or STN? As I said previously there is simply no contest between choosing LCY over SEN if they are aiming at the business traveller and think they can successfully compete with BA and Cityjet at the former. It certainly does not mean that in the future there is no chance of another airline operating domestic routes from SEN; as ever it depends solely on the economics of doing so at a particular frequency and schedule.
Many people think that Flybe have made an error of judgement by launching this LCY network, and I won't comment on that, but if it doesn't work they will have to think again and perhaps SEN will once more be on their radar.
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Flybe
Apr 25, 2014 21:26:30 GMT
Post by devonian on Apr 25, 2014 21:26:30 GMT
It is a brave - or reckless - move for flyBE to operate those routes from LCY. Their management has made some poor decisions in the past, maybe the new team will be better but I think that Edinburgh and Belfast from SEN was the safer bet. How can flyBE hope to compete with BACL on their premier route......?
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Flybe
May 28, 2014 13:06:31 GMT
Post by expressflight on May 28, 2014 13:06:31 GMT
ATR72-50 EI-REL has been rolled out of the hangar at DUB after its respray into the Flybe purple colour scheme, with 'Operated by Stobart Air' titling on the rear fuselage. It is reportedly due to ferry to SEN by the end of the week ready to commence the FMO, RNS and GRQ routes next Thursday.
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Flybe
May 28, 2014 22:09:19 GMT
Post by Thames Gateway on May 28, 2014 22:09:19 GMT
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Flybe
May 28, 2014 22:50:41 GMT
Post by aurigny72 on May 28, 2014 22:50:41 GMT
Well Purple will make a nice change from all that Orange lol
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Flybe
May 31, 2014 8:28:18 GMT
Post by Thames Gateway on May 31, 2014 8:28:18 GMT
Interesting that the earlier 'Operated by Stobart Air' titles have now apparently been changed for 'Operated by Aer Arann' titles! EI-REL
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Flybe
May 31, 2014 10:29:27 GMT
Post by expressflight on May 31, 2014 10:29:27 GMT
Even odder than that, it has 'Aer Arann' on the starboard side and 'Stobart Air' on the port side.
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Flybe
May 31, 2014 15:23:21 GMT
Post by EGMCfollower on May 31, 2014 15:23:21 GMT
Glad i'm not the only one to have spotted this change!
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Flybe
Jun 12, 2014 10:51:49 GMT
Post by expressflight on Jun 12, 2014 10:51:49 GMT
Flybe will commence DUB-SEN-DUB once daily from 26th October 2014. This will be operated by Flybe themselves and not by Stobart Air. Seeing as they commence LCY-DUB at around that time this is something of a surprise. Exactly what this means for the existing EIR DUB-SEN route remains unclear.
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Flybe
Jun 12, 2014 19:10:20 GMT
Post by Humberside on Jun 12, 2014 19:10:20 GMT
Puts Stobart Air in a rather interesting position. One of their franchisor's competing with a route it operates as a franchisee for another airline. Are Flybe trying to send some sort of message here, and if so what?
EDIT - Just read the pprune speculation that this could be replacing the Aer Lingus Regional flights. Stobart Air 'switching brands' would make sense, but going from Stobart Air/Aer Lingus Regional to Flybe? Or could Stobart simply be planning to give up SEN-DUB and BE seem an opportunity. But seems odd they see an opportunity at the same time as starting LCY-DUB?
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Flybe
Jun 13, 2014 15:12:45 GMT
Post by airportman on Jun 13, 2014 15:12:45 GMT
Flybe will operate the morning flight with DHC8 & Stobart Air will operate the everning flight with ATR72 both flights flights will be available to connect to the US flights
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Flybe
Jun 13, 2014 16:23:22 GMT
Post by expressflight on Jun 13, 2014 16:23:22 GMT
So there will have to be some sort of code share between Flybe and Aer Lingus to offer through bookings to the US destinations. Also under the scenario that airportman states it will mean a later arrival SEN from DUB in the morning than at present; something which was surely the main reason that the SEN-DUB-SEN was changed to DUB-SEN-DUB in light of previous operating experience. It's all very odd and there must be some commercial advantages to both Flybe and Stobart Air that I'm missing here.
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