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Post by pug on Feb 18, 2023 15:54:26 GMT
To me suggests they’re either cancelled or full.. Suspect some people have been holding out in the hope DSA reopens. If they are filling up I would be very surprised if we didn’t see more for the following year assuming TUI arent forced to scale back massively. I can only find fewer than 10 seats, over 2 dates, available on the Palma flights in the whole of May. A quick check on some other airports shows they have seats on all their May departures.Must be indicative of the potential for new sun routes that are backed with a package offer. If not TUI who? Not many left in the business to try and attract is there. It’s reassuring yet frustrating. Humberside has always managed to do well with the traditional IT Charter sector, I remember it performing much better than most other regional airports before low-cost airlines came along. So much so that the numerous owners just weren’t prepared to ruin it all by allowing a low-cost airline to come in and cannibalise it all. Obviously it ended up losing out with Doncaster opening anyway and the main remaining major player after all consolidation was the anchor tenant at Doncaster. There is some belief with some TUI pilots that there will be network consolidation too with most of the regional airports abandoned in the next few years. I don’t currently believe there will be any interest at all from Bristow to enter into expensive contracts with fickle operators with diminishing returns. It will only happen if there is some external pressure and/or sufficient interest from operators like TUI to grow their network. There really aren’t many options now, Jet2 won’t come close to it as they really don’t need to, Ryanair would but at what cost?
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Post by kirmingtonuser on Feb 21, 2023 11:51:50 GMT
It looks as though the Balkan Holidays Burgas season now starts on Sunday 4th June with the first Thursday flight on 22nd June. The final inbound Thursday flight is on 14th September and the final inbound Sunday flight is on 24th September.
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Post by huytiger on Mar 24, 2023 16:31:13 GMT
Have I missed out on this information previously?
Fairs Lloyd have an advert in todays Hull Daily Mail for Humberside to Portugal in May, June, September and October, with seven nights 4 star accomodation!
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Post by kirmingtonuser on Mar 24, 2023 20:06:37 GMT
The Fairs Lloyds website has a section for Italian tours with a caption 'Fly direct from Durham Tees Valley or Humberside'. Does this imply that they are using KLM?
If so, the Portuguese holidays might be constructed using the KLM connections to Lisbon, Porto and Faro.
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Post by mrmoose on Apr 19, 2023 19:15:15 GMT
TUI booking engine now doesn't let you book the following departure dates
3rd May - Available 9th May - Sold Out 16th May - Sold Out 23rd May - Sold Out 30th May - Available 6th June - Sold Out 13th June - Sold Out 20th June - Sold Out
All later dates appear available so far. As these are based on attempting a booking for 2 people, Suggests were looking at 99%+ load factor throughout most of May and June
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Post by mrmoose on Apr 19, 2023 19:36:14 GMT
It looks as though the Balkan Holidays Burgas season now starts on Sunday 4th June with the first Thursday flight on 22nd June. The final inbound Thursday flight is on 14th September and the final inbound Sunday flight is on 24th September. Balkan are showing first departure Sunday 28th May. The First Thursday flight is now Thursday 20th July.
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Post by pug on Apr 26, 2023 22:04:35 GMT
TUI booking engine now doesn't let you book the following departure dates 3rd May - Available 9th May - Sold Out 16th May - Sold Out 23rd May - Sold Out 30th May - Available 6th June - Sold Out 13th June - Sold Out 20th June - Sold Out All later dates appear available so far. As these are based on attempting a booking for 2 people, Suggests were looking at 99%+ load factor throughout most of May and June … and yet there’s been growth at pretty much every TUI served regional airport in the U.K. for summer 2024 apart from Humberside. I find this very strange, I appreciate it’s easier to sell a weekly flight to the most popular med destination but when the airport used to have 8 weekly flights to PMI (some on 767’s!) whilst DSA was open, the demand just doesn’t evaporate. There is something else going on here. Hoping for a new owner of the airport in the next couple of years. The owners of BOH, NWI, EXT seem to be able to facilitate growth to the level HUY should be achieving. Meanwhile HUY can’t even staff enough to see KLM return to full strength.
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Post by flyer on Apr 27, 2023 6:41:14 GMT
TUI booking engine now doesn't let you book the following departure dates 3rd May - Available 9th May - Sold Out 16th May - Sold Out 23rd May - Sold Out 30th May - Available 6th June - Sold Out 13th June - Sold Out 20th June - Sold Out All later dates appear available so far. As these are based on attempting a booking for 2 people, Suggests were looking at 99%+ load factor throughout most of May and June … and yet there’s been growth at pretty much every TUI served regional airport in the U.K. for summer 2024 apart from Humberside. I find this very strange, I appreciate it’s easier to sell a weekly flight to the most popular med destination but when the airport used to have 8 weekly flights to PMI (some on 767’s!) whilst DSA was open, the demand just doesn’t evaporate. There is something else going on here. Hoping for a new owner of the airport in the next couple of years. The owners of BOH, NWI, EXT seem to be able to facilitate growth to the level HUY should be achieving. Meanwhile HUY can’t even staff enough to see KLM return to full strength. Balkan booking engine also showing full loads for the first couple of flights. Yes, something is going on, and it's very unlikely to be a TUI issue looking at those forward sales and their continued, but limited, presence at HUY into 2024. HUY could be in negotiations with another operator, but I don't think this is in the least bit likely. Staffing shortages have been industry wide, so what is about working at Humberside that has left it badly constrained whilst others have managed to grow. ATC salary offer looks comparable. Anyone got a feel for HUYs reputation in the industry as a place to work?
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Post by pug on Apr 27, 2023 6:59:46 GMT
… and yet there’s been growth at pretty much every TUI served regional airport in the U.K. for summer 2024 apart from Humberside. I find this very strange, I appreciate it’s easier to sell a weekly flight to the most popular med destination but when the airport used to have 8 weekly flights to PMI (some on 767’s!) whilst DSA was open, the demand just doesn’t evaporate. There is something else going on here. Hoping for a new owner of the airport in the next couple of years. The owners of BOH, NWI, EXT seem to be able to facilitate growth to the level HUY should be achieving. Meanwhile HUY can’t even staff enough to see KLM return to full strength. Balkan booking engine also showing full loads for the first couple of flights. Yes, something is going on, and it's very unlikely to be a TUI issue looking at those forward sales and their continued, but limited, presence at HUY into 2024. HUY could be in negotiations with another operator, but I don't think this is in the least bit likely. Staffing shortages have been industry wide, so what is about working at Humberside that has left it badly constrained whilst others have managed to grow. ATC salary offer looks comparable. Anyone got a feel for HUYs reputation in the industry as a place to work? Led to believe it used to be a happy place to work, in many ways still is. Not sure on ATCO pay but certainly I think the issue is the number of then. Obviously it may not be the case of KLM not returning to full strength, but it just seems a part of a pattern. The owners are a helicopter operator that do not need the expense of ATC at all, the MD is an ATCO by trade. Don’t know who they have in charge of business development if anyone. Might be hard to recruit, but then it’s well within a 45 minute commute to millions of people so no need to relocate. Now is the time to grow. I would be surprised if TUI couldn’t be encouraged to do so. Hope they’re not using Gloucester as an influence.
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Post by flyer on Apr 27, 2023 7:44:15 GMT
Balkan booking engine also showing full loads for the first couple of flights. Yes, something is going on, and it's very unlikely to be a TUI issue looking at those forward sales and their continued, but limited, presence at HUY into 2024. HUY could be in negotiations with another operator, but I don't think this is in the least bit likely. Staffing shortages have been industry wide, so what is about working at Humberside that has left it badly constrained whilst others have managed to grow. ATC salary offer looks comparable. Anyone got a feel for HUYs reputation in the industry as a place to work? Led to believe it used to be a happy place to work, in many ways still is. Not sure on ATCO pay but certainly I think the issue is the number of then. Obviously it may not be the case of KLM not returning to full strength, but it just seems a part of a pattern. The owners are a helicopter operator that do not need the expense of ATC at all, the MD is an ATCO by trade. Don’t know who they have in charge of business development if anyone. Might be hard to recruit, but then it’s well within a 45 minute commute to millions of people so no need to relocate. Now is the time to grow. I would be surprised if TUI couldn’t be encouraged to do so. Hope they’re not using Gloucester as an influence. Thanks. I hope someone, the current owners or potential new owners, see the opportunities available for HUY to grow.
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Post by flyer on May 22, 2023 6:40:12 GMT
… and yet there’s been growth at pretty much every TUI served regional airport in the U.K. for summer 2024 apart from Humberside. I find this very strange, I appreciate it’s easier to sell a weekly flight to the most popular med destination but when the airport used to have 8 weekly flights to PMI (some on 767’s!) whilst DSA was open, the demand just doesn’t evaporate. There is something else going on here. Hoping for a new owner of the airport in the next couple of years. The owners of BOH, NWI, EXT seem to be able to facilitate growth to the level HUY should be achieving. Meanwhile HUY can’t even staff enough to see KLM return to full strength. Balkan booking engine also showing full loads for the first couple of flights. Yes, something is going on, and it's very unlikely to be a TUI issue looking at those forward sales and their continued, but limited, presence at HUY into 2024. HUY could be in negotiations with another operator, but I don't think this is in the least bit likely. Staffing shortages have been industry wide, so what is about working at Humberside that has left it badly constrained whilst others have managed to grow. ATC salary offer looks comparable. Anyone got a feel for HUYs reputation in the industry as a place to work? I'm not sure now that Balkan will be starting next Sunday. Looks like nothing until 11th June bookable and I dont now think its because of full loads. They've been cutting back on all departures this year from all airports.
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Post by pug on May 22, 2023 7:18:09 GMT
Balkan booking engine also showing full loads for the first couple of flights. Yes, something is going on, and it's very unlikely to be a TUI issue looking at those forward sales and their continued, but limited, presence at HUY into 2024. HUY could be in negotiations with another operator, but I don't think this is in the least bit likely. Staffing shortages have been industry wide, so what is about working at Humberside that has left it badly constrained whilst others have managed to grow. ATC salary offer looks comparable. Anyone got a feel for HUYs reputation in the industry as a place to work? I'm not sure now that Balkan will be starting next Sunday. Looks like nothing until 11th June bookable and I dont now think its because of full loads. They've been cutting back on all departures this year from all airports. Pretty sure that’s been confirmed by HAT as starting in June? I know Bulgaria is popular due to its traditionally lower costs, but is it really two flights a week worth popular when you have only one flight to Palma per week that appears to be pretty much full most of the season? Not sure how the Ukraine conflict has affected people wanting to go to Eastern Europe.
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Post by kirmingtonuser on May 22, 2023 13:09:39 GMT
On the Balkan website, the earliest Sunday departure I could find that was bookable was on 25th June. The earliest Thursday departure seems to be on 20th July. In September, the final Thursday outbound is on 7th and they are selling inbound flights on Thursday 14th (which only show up when searching for 17th). They are selling 7 day holidays departing Sunday 17th, so the final inbound must be on 24th.
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Post by kirmingtonuser on May 27, 2023 20:15:15 GMT
The departure board and Flightradar24 are showing the 08.00 scheduled departure of 8H5560 to Burgas on Sunday 28th May.
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Post by flyer on May 28, 2023 5:53:32 GMT
The departure board and Flightradar24 are showing the 08.00 scheduled departure of 8H5560 to Burgas on Sunday 28th May. Good news.
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